[BUZOOKA]

jonno_racing wrote:

sorry buddy dont take this the wrong way but if u have to ask what a valve is/what it does maby you shouldnt be even concidering a engine conversion.

i say this because u are not the first kid to try this and have to have some one more experianced come fix your fuck ups...

i will put a mk1 gti motor in your zook, if you supply everything, and i will wire it up for around $700, that includes makeing a angle drive for your dizzy etc..

might sound like alot but concider it.

thanks for then offer


but between my father brother and my self it will bea peice of cake

not the first engine conversion my brother or father have done

but thanks anyway

[atari4x4]

BlueSuzy wrote:

97kw at the motor....not at the wheels..

really who would have thought that... i never said it had a 97kw at the wheels & most factory HP figures are at the flywheel

i'd hate to see how many kw a stock sierra has at the wheels.... maybe 25kw, i think they are about 47kw at the flywheel from memory?

[ajsr]

I recon my seirra has about 1.4kw at 6500 rpm at the wheels, thank god for gears

[BlueSuzy]

Baleno's are 7*kw i think.

Pretty shit compared to a D16Y8 Honda motor single cam.. 1.6 = 98kw..
B16a is more..

Buzooka. Get an F20c motor with the 6sp.

[steve]

fuck em all buzzy, and stick in a 3.8V6

[ajsr]

or just go a 660 like gwagens . its lite , you can camp in the engine bay theres that much spare room and different.It goes ok too

[Fatzook]

steve wrote:

fuck em all buzzy, and stick in a 3.8V6

Yeah!!!

[Fatzook]

jonno_racing wrote:

sorry buddy dont take this the wrong way but if u have to ask what a valve is/what it does maby you shouldnt be even concidering a engine conversion.

i say this because u are not the first kid to try this and have to have some one more experianced come fix your fuck ups...

i will put a mk1 gti motor in your zook, if you supply everything, and i will wire it up for around $700, that includes makeing a angle drive for your dizzy etc..

might sound like alot but concider it.

No. Thats too cheap!!

I'd be charging $1500 for that conversion. Shop time aint cheap!

[jonno_racing]

Fatzook wrote:

No. Thats too cheap!!

I'd be charging $1500 for that conversion. Shop time aint cheap!

thats what i thought.. most places would charge you $1000 for wiring alone!

meh his loss!

[zuk95]

That's why we don't get other people to do work on our zooks! You and everyone here would not want to pay the money and would probably whinge and bitch if you were quoted that price.


Buzooker will do what he wants and it will work out and not cost that much money, same as everyone else does.

But as he said, this has gone way off track and maybe needs to be cleaned up.

[superduki]

I just sold a full running 1.3 in hobart for $250, so there are motors kicking around mate. Just drop another donk in it, and play with your gearing, zooks were never intended to be fast cars, if its not your style, and want to drive quicker, sell it and buy another pulsar.

Cheers, Superduki.

[jonno_racing]

BUZOOKA wrote:

i thought about just rebuilding it as its lost alot of compression and it just has no go

on a side note, how do u know it has no compresion??? its proberbly just out of tune.

[Fatzook]

zuk95 wrote:

That's why we don't get other people to do work on our zooks! You and everyone here would not want to pay the money and would probably whinge and bitch if you were quoted that price.


Buzooker will do what he wants and it will work out and not cost that much money, same as everyone else does.

But as he said, this has gone way off track and maybe needs to be cleaned up.

If he (Buzooka) has the skill, knowledge and tools to do the job, then I say go for it.

But on the other hand, people need to realise that an engine conversion is not simple. Lots of time, and in some cases materials go into the project to get it done to a proffessional finish. For example, modifying the wiring loom can take up to 2 days including chopping, testing, modding plugs, shortening or extending wires and so on. Then there are the consumable involved in this process that also cost money that people overlook when taking on a project like this in their garage.

Just because you boughta cheap little sierra doesn't mean that all the mods are going to be comparatively cheap.

Just my 2 cents.

Pete

[2stroker]

Fatzook is 100% correct.

Hi atari4x4

I believe that Suzuki rates a J20A at 94KW, but even if it was 97KW after 13 years of use I am sure it has lost quite a few the KW's it was first released with, certainly not close to 100KW as you optimistically stated.

I don't think he can legally go 2 litres and I don't think anyone has fitted the latest 2009/2010 122KW 2.4 litre GV engine to a Sierra yet.

Yeah I am a realist no apologies.

[jonno_racing]

fatzookx2

what would u charge for this kind of conversion?

[steak_knife]

2stroker wrote:

Fatzook is 100% correct.

Hi atari4x4

I believe that Suzuki rates a J20A at 94KW, but even if it was 97KW after 13 years of use I am sure it has lost quite a few the KW's it was first released with, certainly not close to 100KW as you optimistically stated.

I don't think he can legally go 2 litres and I don't think anyone has fitted the latest 2009/2010 122KW 2.4 litre GV engine to a Sierra yet.

Yeah I am a realist no apologies.

Sorry mate, but ever time I service a 2.4 Gv I do the conversion in my head, so it has been done hundreds of time's

Oh, X2

[Fatzook]

steknig wrote:

2stroker wrote:

Fatzook is 100% correct.

Hi atari4x4

I believe that Suzuki rates a J20A at 94KW, but even if it was 97KW after 13 years of use I am sure it has lost quite a few the KW's it was first released with, certainly not close to 100KW as you optimistically stated.

I don't think he can legally go 2 litres and I don't think anyone has fitted the latest 2009/2010 122KW 2.4 litre GV engine to a Sierra yet.

Yeah I am a realist no apologies.

Sorry mate, but ever time I service a 2.4 Gv I do the conversion in my head, so it has been done hundreds of time's

LOL

Don't supose you have access to a 2.4 crate motor?

[zuk95]

jonno_racing wrote:

fatzookx2

what would u charge for this kind of conversion?

But now you're getting in to the whole other world of what other people would charge. Suzisport charge $3500 - $4000 for a 1.6efi conversion , drive in drive out?

which has nothing to do with anything.

[ajsr]

you have got to be really carefull charging for work jonno.
the second you recive money nomatter how much your liable legally for the job and any problems or accidents.
your also liable for other damages associated with your work and anyone hurt.

[jonno_racing]

yeah i do relise this!! all work i do is always carried out with my mate tom who is a qualifed mechanic, we do work like this on weekends for beer money!!a conversion like this GTI- sierra would be quite straight forward for us and we would even let transport know of your new engine number.

and zuk95 of corse it does.. there is a reson things like that cost so much.. they are not easy.. and realisticly i dont think bazooka should be attemtping this as it will cost him a whole lot more in the furutre, hence why i offerd

[BUZOOKA]

yer tru that can back fire in ur face sometimes


well looks like i might just be overhauling the 1.3

[jonno_racing]

there is a gti motor in the forsale section..

[BUZOOKA]

do u have a link ??

[atari4x4]

2stroker wrote:

Fatzook is 100% correct.

Hi atari4x4

I believe that Suzuki rates a J20A at 94KW, but even if it was 97KW after 13 years of use I am sure it has lost quite a few the KW's it was first released with, certainly not close to 100KW as you optimistically stated.

I don't think he can legally go 2 litres and I don't think anyone has fitted the latest 2009/2010 122KW 2.4 litre GV engine to a Sierra yet.

Yeah I am a realist no apologies.

you asked for 4cyl suzuki engines with 100kw, the 2.4 has more than that!!

i think you find i said "nearly 100kw" originally, it's a whole lot closer to 100kw than proposed 47kw coming out of a band new 1.3L

[atari4x4]

BUZOOKA wrote:

do u have a link ??

here you go..
http://auszookers.com/index.php?name=Forums&file=search

[steak_knife]

atari4x4 wrote:

BUZOOKA wrote:

do u have a link ??

here you go..
http://auszookers.com/index.php?name=Forums&file=search

That link's useless, it's just a search thing that search's!!

[BUZOOKA]

as i mentioned i think i might just rebuild my old 1.3 and call it a good thing 1 liter transfer it and slap some lift and tyres on


so discussion here closed

[IN2DEP]

BUZOOKA wrote:

as i mentioned i think i might just rebuild my old 1.3 and call it a good thing 1 liter transfer it and slap some lift and tyres on


so discussion here closed

Do the 1.6 vit motor with the twin cam (GTI head) thats what im going to do when i get some cash

[atari4x4]

2stroker wrote:

Fatzook is 100% correct.

Hi atari4x4

I believe that Suzuki rates a J20A at 94KW, but even if it was 97KW after 13 years of use I am sure it has lost quite a few the KW's it was first released with, certainly not close to 100KW as you optimistically stated.

I don't think he can legally go 2 litres and I don't think anyone has fitted the latest 2009/2010 122KW 2.4 litre GV engine to a Sierra yet.

Yeah I am a realist no apologies.

2storker, serious question time...

how many KW would a well looked after 13 year old motor would lose, i have replaced the cat & muffler with a hi flow cat & muffler?

i know redbook isn't always 100% correct but thats what i used to get the 97kw...

http://www.redbook.com.au/used-cars/det ... 6062C694A3

[Fatzook]

IN2DEP wrote:

BUZOOKA wrote:

as i mentioned i think i might just rebuild my old 1.3 and call it a good thing 1 liter transfer it and slap some lift and tyres on


so discussion here closed

Do the 1.6 vit motor with the twin cam (GTI head) thats what im going to do when i get some cash

Not a great motor setup for an offroad driven sierra. They are way to peaky despite the 1.6 block, and require aftermarket engine management to get any kind of reliable result. Oh, and the 1.3GTI head actually flows less than the 1.6 SOHC head.

Buzooka, I think you are on the right track there mate. Just keep it simple and you will enjoy it far more.

Peter