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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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Can anyone provide a pic of a Jimny rear diff (or anything equivalent) that has and shows the 2 sets of pinion gears. I want to show Derek as he says "They must have changed them" from what he knew of.
How long have the Jims and Sierras had 2 sets?
Thanks
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tanshi
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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7717 Location: Brisbane
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Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 2:42 pm |
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Two sets? got pics ??
Sierras havent ever had two sets of pinion gears as far as i know.
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want33s
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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8134 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:03 pm |
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I know SFA about Jimny's but Sierras have always used 4 pinion rear diffs.
NT fronts are also 4 pinion.
WT fronts are 2 pinion.
4 pinion rear:
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joeblow
Joined: Sat May 10, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 3273 Location: melbourne
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Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:54 pm |
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yes, vits, sierras and jimnys have allways used 4 pinion rear diffs.
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Damo
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Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4661 Location: Brisbane
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Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 5:22 pm |
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Bugsta wrote: Can anyone provide a pic of a Jimny rear diff (or anything equivalent) that has and shows the 2 sets of pinion gears. I want to show Derek as he says "They must have changed them" from what he knew of.
How long have the Jims and Sierras had 2 sets?
Thanks
Is someone trying to sell you a front centre for the rear?
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ninjadaniel
Joined: Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 365 Location: Brisbane
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Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:34 pm |
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jimny front diff has exposed spider gears, jimny rear is closed in like sierra.
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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 11:33 pm |
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Damo wrote: Is someone trying to sell you a front centre for the rear?
No, just wanted to understand why these phantomgrip LSD's will fit in the front but not into the back.
edit: Derek says they will. Chris says they won't.
I would post a pic but I get the message "Sorry, but the maximum filesize for all Attachments is reached. Please contact the Board Administrator if you have questions." I have made sure the picture is under 250kb (only 146kb)
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want33s
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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8134 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 2:15 am |
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Bugsta wrote: No, just wanted to understand why these phantomgrip LSD's will fit in the front but not into the back That LSD must be for a 2 pinion diff and is unsuitable for 4 pinion setup. Bugsta wrote: I would post a pic but I get the message "Sorry, but the maximum filesize for all Attachments is reached. Please contact the Board Administrator if you have questions." I have made sure the picture is under 250kb (only 146kb)
Use photobucket then... 
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TZAR
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Joined: Tue Aug 01, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 3459 Location: licking some windows
Vehicle: LJ20 LJ50
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 2:32 am |
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Bugsta wrote: No, just wanted to understand why these phantomgrip LSD's will fit in the front but not into the back.
website of phatomgrip
http://www.phantomgrip.com/products
 
Phantom Grip Xtreme Unit
Maximize the handling potential of your vehicle with the Phantom Grip Xtreme Unit. Built for the highest horsepower applications out there, the Xtreme Unit is guaranteed to achieve maximum performance.
Okay have a look at the diff and see how would you fit that inside where the star gears go??????
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TZAR
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Joined: Tue Aug 01, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 3459 Location: licking some windows
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want33s
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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8134 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 2:38 am |
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/\ /\ /\ No wonder they don't work
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TZAR
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 2:40 am |
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Okay these items MAY work but they look much more suited to a ON road application. They don't look like they would be adventages in a off road situation when you are lifting wheels off the ground.
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steak_knife
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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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want33s wrote: /\ /\ /\ No wonder they don't work
X2, watching that............thing on sun, there is no way power was going to both wheel's.
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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 3:46 am |
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X3. Agreed. I really saw no benefit.
Derek has asked me to drop the vehicle in so he can...
1. Assess if the front one is doing anything
2. Assess if the front one is installed correctly
3. See why the rear can't be installed.
Based on what I have been told and shown by Chris, I understand why it won't fit, but if I am to either get benefit from the product, or refund, I need to let Derek take a look.
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royce
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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:43 pm |
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I know a guy has one of these in a 300kg mini powered motorkahna special, even with massive slicks the thing still wont drive 2 wheels
if you are talking about the 2 people I think you are I would be listening to the one that says no and think about finding another supplier of bits, there are so many better ones out there
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Highway-Star
Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4109 Location: Ipswich
Vehicle: LJ80V-II (a proper Stockman)
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 3:35 pm |
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How is that supposed to work? I mean whats the theory?
If its supposed to apply friction to the spiders, hence slowing there movement, I would think you'd want it made of something with a far higher friction coefficient then steel...  steel on steel friction is SFA! (assuming steel anyway, looks like it)
Just from what I've seen here, I think I'd forget about them, and save up for some air lockers, or if not lockrights... _________________ Clearance Hole Technology 
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gman
Joined: Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 172 Location: Longford, Tasmania
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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:09 pm |
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I know why there called phantom lockers now.......... because it doesn't lock!
and it's not gonna fit in the rear of your jimny because there is no hole in the side of the diff centre to slide that block of Alloy into.
I recon if you stick a coke can in with plantery gears it will act more like a locker than that thing!!
you seem to have plenty of coin for your toys, why don't you go Air lockers?
I have an Air locker in the front of my jim, mainly because I twisted my old front centre in half (there not very strong) and from what I've seen you like to do with your Jim, your gonna do the same one day. and you'll need some spare Cv's soon too with a bit of mucking around 1 litre sierra cv's can be used in a jim and are much cheaper too 
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