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zookprojectfnq
Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 260 Location: Cairns
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As stated, I have carby G16 a out of an old swift but it has the dizzy so it would go though the fire wall. I want to put a G13b head on I have here and give it new rings bearings, VRS and timing kit. Do they bolt up. I would prefer the G16b head as its 16v but I need a right angle drive dizzy as I refuse to detroy the fire wall
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v.w.dave
Joined: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1437 Location: The Hills Sydney
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you can put a 8v head on a 16v block but not the other way around. so yes that work. I currently have a 1.6 16v block with the 1.3 8v head. if you look in the DIY section you will find a cheap wat to make the dizzy work.
But from what I know the carby 1.6 you dont have to modify the dizzy. I may be wrong on that though
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Zachius
Joined: Sat May 23, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 152 Location: Newcastle
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Potentially another option worth investigating is a head off a late model baleno (sometime around the 2000 model) that has coilpacks and electronic timing (combination of a magnetic pickup where the dizzy goes and ECU).
Not sure how expensive this might be or whether it is even possible.
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gman
Joined: Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 172 Location: Longford, Tasmania
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 Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:26 am |
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g13a head on a g16ba block works I;ve built one too.
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zookprojectfnq
Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 260 Location: Cairns
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Thanks guys I just thought Id ask before leaping into it. Now I have to get motivated
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royce

omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 12:25 pm |
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do you have a swift 16v carb head? wanna sell it if its useable?
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Scrawny

I live here!
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
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v.w.dave wrote: But from what I know the carby 1.6 you dont have to modify the dizzy. I may be wrong on that though
The FWD Swift/Baleno had the dizzy pointing straight out the back of the head, if you're using this head it needs a right angle adaptor to turn the dizzy. They are available but from where and how much... someone else will know.
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
Vehicle: suzuki
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so u want to put a GTI head on a 1600 block??
i am not 100% but i think u will need to smack some butterfly pistons in it 2.. easy if your going to pull it down anyways
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Ben_Sierra

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Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4472 Location: Perth
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zookprojectfnq wrote: As stated, I have carby G16 a out of an old swift but it has the dizzy so it would go though the fire wall. I want to put a G13b head on I have here and give it new rings bearings, VRS and timing kit. Do they bolt up. I would prefer the G16b head as its 16v but I need a right angle drive dizzy as I refuse to detroy the fire wall
So you wanna put a 16v head on an 8v block? Then you're gonna need new pistons for a start...
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v.w.dave
Joined: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1437 Location: The Hills Sydney
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If your looking to put a GTI head on a 1600 16v block it will work but they are VERY tempromentle I did a lot of reading about it and hunted down 2 different cars that have them. Both were swifts and both owners said they were great and had tons of power. But both told me they wouldn't do it again. From what they said the timing is a BIG issue. one of the guys runs his inlet cam one tooth advanced just to get it to idle. The other person spent BIG bucks on a aftermarket ECU.
If you are going to do it talk to Jimbo Jones on here he has a mate on GTIredlimit that will help you out with parts and the best way to do it.
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mnemonix

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Joined: Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1409 Location: Newcastle NSW
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G16A block with a gti head leaves you with a very low static compression. In the range of 8:1 off the top of my head.
Not suited to a naturally aspirated setup, with very little torque produced.
Search on outerlimits for the hybrid setup, you'll find plenty of ppl asking about it, but noone thats had the conversion speaking kindly of it.
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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I would say he means a G13BA head, most people will say GTI when they mean that head as they are unaware what prefix is for what
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zookprojectfnq
Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 260 Location: Cairns
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 Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 2:06 am |
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No I just want to stick a standard old G13b head from a sierra on a carby g16
swift motor? Will no longer require the 16v head and will probly sell it
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royce

omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 2:14 am |
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interested in talking about the head when you are ready
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