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smally1.6
Joined: Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 84 Location: Tassie, Hobart
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G'day all
About to do the first service on my 1990 vitara with
the 4 cylinder carby, what spark plugs should i use?
My dad uses Bosch super 4's in his v8, he said there
very good so should i use them or can anyone suggest
anything better.
thanks
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31zook
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9242 Location: maito
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there all pretty much the same....
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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31zook wrote: there all pretty much the same....
X2 
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89_tintop

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Joined: Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3159 Location: gold coast
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 Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 8:14 pm |
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steknig wrote: 31zook wrote: there all pretty much the same.... X2 
x3
you beat me to it.......
just run standard plugs
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 8:20 pm |
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89_tintop wrote: steknig wrote: 31zook wrote: there all pretty much the same.... X2  x3 you beat me to it....... just run standard plugs
But ripco said these Irludemecoin one's are friggen awesome!!! 
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89_tintop

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Joined: Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3159 Location: gold coast
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steknig wrote: 89_tintop wrote: steknig wrote: 31zook wrote: there all pretty much the same.... X2  x3 you beat me to it....... just run standard plugs But ripco said these Irludemecoin one's are friggen awesome!!! 
hahaha...... are they worth the 4x buy price as well??
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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 Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 8:33 pm |
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yes.
Iridium's last longer.
100,000+ i think.
Normal your meant to change every 20,000?
_________________ BlueSuzy wrote: I'm over the G16b's.
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joeblow
Joined: Sat May 10, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 3273 Location: melbourne
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 Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 8:37 pm |
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standard ngk.
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89_tintop

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Joined: Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3159 Location: gold coast
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BlueSuzy wrote: yes.
Iridium's last longer.
100,000+ i think.
Normal your meant to change every 20,000?
that is true.. but doesnt mean that they are better.
i pay from 2 to 5 for standard plugs and between 16 and 25 for platinum/iridium equivilent.
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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89_tintop wrote: BlueSuzy wrote: yes.
Iridium's last longer.
100,000+ i think.
Normal your meant to change every 20,000? that is true.. but doesnt mean that they are better. i pay from 2 to 5 for standard plugs and between 16 and 25 for platinum/iridium equivilent.
Didnt say they were better. If i wanted hp id go for basic ones.
I just want to do the least amount of servicing done possible. oil change, check everything, thats it.
my iridiums lasted longer than the motor i cooked 
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Scrawny

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Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
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joeblow wrote: standard ngk.
x2! I only use NGK, Denso or Bosch. Never touched Champions. Don't bother with Iridium, you don't need them.
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eldo

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Joined: Sat May 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2770 Location: sunny coast
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 Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 9:05 pm |
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irridium are only good if your car is running perfect, it is running rich or your choke stays on for a while dont get them. just use original ngk standards
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
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eldo wrote: irridium are only good if your car is running perfect, it is running rich or your choke stays on for a while dont get them. just use original ngk standards
(i have efi) 
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Scrawny

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Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
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Iridiums are brilliant for cars with hard to get to plugs, ie; V6's etc
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smally1.6
Joined: Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 84 Location: Tassie, Hobart
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 Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 9:47 pm |
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thanks
i think i will go for the standard ngk.
cheers smally1.6
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MacDaddy

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Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 10453 Location: Perth, Australia
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 Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:27 pm |
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smally1.6 wrote: G'day all About to do the first service on my 1990 vitara with the 4 cylinder carby, what spark plugs should i use? My dad uses Bosch super 4's in his v8, he said there very good so should i use them or can anyone suggest anything better.
thanks
All Spark Plugs are not the same, you get what you pay for !
I used, Bosch Platinum Plus, Yttrium enhanced, a longer life plug, they are not the most expensive, and not the cheapest, a standard plug is about $4 each, the Bosch were about $7, a plug, so $30 for 4, not to bad...
The Bosch part is - P8-4 or the old part number - WR7DP, and they fit my 89 Vit with the G16A engine ! 
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hutch

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Joined: Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1213 Location: SW Bris
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Quote: you get what you pay for !
damn... I never get what I pay for! 
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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Iridiums believe it or not do work, seen numerous cars reduce fuel consumption with em fitted so something must be happening
I would be worried about any carby car keeping them clean enough to not chuck out after 20,000km though
NGK BKR5E or BKR5EY I would use, smaller hex so easier to fit and the ey means they have a grooved electrode so it moves the spark to the side
Champion gold are also good for power and cheap or Bosch Super 4's in theory should work (I had some really cold ones in my sierra for years and they were good)
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lukes_89
Joined: Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1204 Location: sunshine coast
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i like the iridium only for the fact is in the long run you save as iridium change at 100,000km and normal ones at 20,000km some times even 10,000 which is what i do with a service so thats at 20,000 is 5 sets of plugs you dont have to pay for so i like them in that way but other wise i see no power gain or anything
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Reubs
Joined: Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1522 Location: Brisbane
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I have run iridiums for over a year now. I had them in my G16 carb Sierra, then took them out and put them in my G13 Sierra. I also went up a heat range, so you'd think they'd foul easier in a dirty carby engine. I haven't had a problem with fouling so far in 25,000km. For the record, my standard NGK's in the 1.6 were pretty black last I checked! I don't think they'd last 100,000km or anywhere near that in a Zuk though.
Also, the Iridiums cost 4 times as much, but probably need changing half as frequently, so they probably cost twice as much in the long run. The only saving would be for people too lazy to spend 10 minutes changing plugs.
I have previously had great results from the old copper super 4 plugs from bosch - they were cheap too. Now the only multi-elctrode plugs they offer are platinum/iridium and they are a bit exxy.
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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these ones 
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