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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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just put in a second hand auto locker, didnt have a look inside just whacked it in but geezus is it noisy. Maybe im just getting old but it clicks, bangs and engages/disengages heaps. I have had them before but cant remember what they were like, is this normal. Think i prefered the welded rear. Can this be caused by to much backlash ? i set it just a tad more than standard. Also i think it sat around for a while out the car ?
cheers mick
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Red89
Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2801 Location: Perth
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Is that my old one ?
If it is I know it would let out a fair bang when sharp cornering slowly as in pulling into my driveway, but this was only ever occassionaly. The diff was professionally setup by The Diff Centre in Oconner a couple years ago and I use to use 85/140 in it. As you know though I never daily drove mine, also I wonder if the light rear end in yours makes a difference.
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morpheus

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Joined: Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 689 Location: Adelaide
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i had an auto locker in the rear of my 84 NT ton top and mine was real noisy, especially when backing out of a tight shopping center car park. it actually made the bak of the car jump around a bit. to the point that people wuld stare cus they thought the car was stuffed. mine was installed by 4WD systems Adelaide.. they just told me it was normal cus they were really meant for bigger/heavier cars with more sound proofing so u couldn't hear it 2 much.
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zookprojectfnq
Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 260 Location: Cairns
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Ive got one in the front and when turning tight Ive had people yell at me to stop and that Ive got a broken CV. You get use to it I dont really notice it that much any more
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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yeah its your old one but in my 4.1 housing, i think i may be being over critical. Iam running 80w90 in it might swap to the one you were using and see if that makes a difference. Does good doughnuts tho 
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
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31zook's bangs like nothing else i have heard before!
Sounds like a broken something!!!
I like my quiet welded rear.. Even if i do get the odd chirp on concrete.
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joeblow
Joined: Sat May 10, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 3273 Location: melbourne
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morpheus wrote: mine was installed by 4WD systems Adelaide.. they just told me it was normal cus they were really meant for bigger/heavier cars with more sound proofing so u couldn't hear it 2 much.
thats gold.....people will come up with any excuse to sell rubbish products!
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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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Ha ha yeah -
The posts above are the reason someone else owns my old autolocker, and why I now own an air locker...
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31zook
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9242 Location: maito
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BlueSuzy wrote: 31zook's bangs like nothing else i have heard before!
Sounds like a broken something!!!
would that have something to do with the oil leak?  still held together where needed....
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Rhino

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Joined: Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 928 Location: Sunny Coast
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MrRocky wrote: Can this be caused by to much backlash ? i set it just a tad more than standard
Installed one in a mates Suzuki about a month ago with slightly too much backlash and it was noisy as all hell.
Dropped it down to minimal possible backlash and it’s become a lot quieter and doesn’t unlock as often for no reason.
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Red89
Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2801 Location: Perth
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lump_a_charcoal wrote: Ha ha yeah -
The posts above are the reason someone else owns my old autolocker, and why I now own an air locker...
And spend 3 times as much on something that may be quieter but can be just as unreliable. There is just as many threads about airlockers leaking, smelling, not engaging, not disengaging, solenoids frying, compressors shitting themselves 
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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joeblow wrote: morpheus wrote: mine was installed by 4WD systems Adelaide.. they just told me it was normal cus they were really meant for bigger/heavier cars with more sound proofing so u couldn't hear it 2 much. thats gold.....people will come up with any excuse to sell rubbish products!
probably the worst mail order company in Australia.
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brendan
Joined: Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1484 Location: Sydney
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i hate mine, unlocks for no reason, honesty i would go an airlocker but if you cant afford it weld the diff.
locking and unlocking when doing 100kmh sends you into the next lane!
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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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Red89 wrote: lump_a_charcoal wrote: Ha ha yeah -
The posts above are the reason someone else owns my old autolocker, and why I now own an air locker... And spend 3 times as much on something that may be quieter but can be just as unreliable. There is just as many threads about airlockers leaking, smelling, not engaging, not disengaging, solenoids frying, compressors shitting themselves 
At least it doesn't make my car change lanes whenever it feels like it...
Do you own an airlocker or are you just trolling?
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
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lump_a_charcoal wrote: Do you own an airlocker or are you just trolling?
I have an airlocker noise i got when i was a kid. Brrrrrr pssssst
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Red89
Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2801 Location: Perth
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lump_a_charcoal wrote: Red89 wrote: lump_a_charcoal wrote: Ha ha yeah -
The posts above are the reason someone else owns my old autolocker, and why I now own an air locker... And spend 3 times as much on something that may be quieter but can be just as unreliable. There is just as many threads about airlockers leaking, smelling, not engaging, not disengaging, solenoids frying, compressors shitting themselves  At least it doesn't make my car change lanes whenever it feels like it... Do you own an airlocker or are you just trolling?
Not exactly sure what you are refering to as trolling
Anyway to answer your question, no I have never had an airlocker however I have had 2 Lockrights and 1 Detroit and I would gladly get either again. In a straight line there was no difference between stock with either of mine, let alone forcing me to ' change lane whenever it felt like it '. As I said the only time mine made its presance known was when slowly turning into a driveway or parking spot.
I have however been on trips with several people that have had their airlockers stay engaged, not disengage and so forth. Their are horror stories on both sides of the fence but for over a grands worth I would expect the airlockers to be alot more reliable then what they appear to be, maybe I am expecting too much of ARB 
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joeblow
Joined: Sat May 10, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 3273 Location: melbourne
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Red89 wrote: for over a grands worth I would expect the airlockers to be alot more reliable then what they appear to be they generally are (read reply below). of the squillians of airlockers i've done, i only had two owner ubused units come back for a quick repair. of all the lockrights i've done they have gone out within specified tolerances, only to end up noisy as hell 6 months or so later.....guess what?.....they need a re-shim. bet they don't tell you that when you buy one! Red89 wrote: maybe I am expecting too much of ARB 
not at all, but you ARE expeting too much of certain 'monkeys' who are installing them.
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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Yep its noisy as shit and bangs in and out under acceleration to 60 at least 5 times. I will try minimal backlash and maybe a re-shim.
It will eventually find its way into the front of mine with some chromos and i will go a spool/detroit in the rear.
cheers
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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ball must be a legend as my front lockright has never banged once and works
very well and the rear one bangs if i am not driving smoothly and never over
about 20kph.
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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shep wrote: ball must be a legend as my front lockright has never banged once and works very well and the rear one bangs if i am not driving smoothly and never over about 20kph.
i remember when he was putting it together cos he refused to read the instructions. so maybe that is the trick 
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Rhino

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Joined: Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 928 Location: Sunny Coast
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Yeah the instructions make very little sense.
Took me any a beer to figure out what they were on about
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Zachius
Joined: Sat May 23, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 152 Location: Newcastle
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mine "clicks" and also rarely clunks (engages, only when you are accelerating) around corners at low speed. Generally I don't find it a problem.
Out of interest what brand is your auto locker? Mine is a lockrite.
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jdk81
Joined: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2372 Location: Ballarat, VIC
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shep wrote: ball must be a legend as my front lockright has never banged once and works very well and the rear one bangs if i am not driving smoothly and never over about 20kph. I installed an auto in the rear of mine. The only time i notice it is if i dont keep constant power while cornering, or if i drop the clutch to quick while turning. Sure an air locker would be nice, for on road driving but I doubt it will be that nice to warrant the cost. I am considering putting one in the front now too. Zachius wrote: mine "clicks" and also rarely clunks (engages, only when you are accelerating) around corners at low speed. Generally I don't find it a problem.
Out of interest what brand is your auto locker? Mine is a lockrite.
Mines a lockrite too.
Seems we have the same positive experience
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
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shep wrote: shep wrote: ball must be a legend as my front lockright has never banged once and works very well and the rear one bangs if i am not driving smoothly and never over about 20kph. i remember when he was putting it together cos he refused to read the instructions. so maybe that is the trick 
He must be a real man.. 
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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BlueSuzy wrote: shep wrote: shep wrote: ball must be a legend as my front lockright has never banged once and works very well and the rear one bangs if i am not driving smoothly and never over about 20kph. i remember when he was putting it together cos he refused to read the instructions. so maybe that is the trick  He must be a real man.. 
haha it worried me so i stopped watching  not bad though as i drove into his
workshop in the morning and drove out in the arvo with 2 diff locks installed and my transfer rebuilt with 6.5s. 
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brodiezook
Joined: Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 433 Location: perth
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well this is why i took the rear lokcer out of my zook as it was making to much noisy clicking and banging on the road in a straight line i was getting to much attention with the noise fromt the locker..
mine is also a lockrite locker.
my brother used to work for a diff company and he said that it needed to be reshimmed and that aswell but i have never got around to getting it done .
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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i really dont want to get greasy again, in the last week ive had the motor and box out once, radiator 3 times, diff twice, axles 3 times (bearings) not to mention clutch, rear main, thermostat, thermo fans ect... I hate it but cant stand it so its coming out.......now
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