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stockman

az supporter
Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 5319 Location: Canberra
Vehicle: 4wd
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 Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 2:51 pm |
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What way should I swing?
Pro's and con's?
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lump_a_charcoal

az supporter
Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
Vehicle: MY2019 Jimny
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 Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:22 pm |
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I would get an electric, as there is minimal storage in my car for anything.
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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 Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:30 pm |
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tirfors are shit and i would rather burn my car then use one ever again.
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want33s

az supporter
Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8134 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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shep wrote: tirfors are shit and i would rather burn my car then use one ever again.
X 2...
Tirfors are for emergency use only... To be used if your electric winch dies and you can't get ANY other help.
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Rusho

Tubby Elfsdong
Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 6501 Location: Northside, Brisbane
Vehicle: Coily Sierra
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 Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 8:16 pm |
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Stupid question time  What is a tirfor??? Is it a hand winch?
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Joe

I live here!
Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 49041 Location: Rockingham W.A
Vehicle: JB74
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 Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 8:23 pm |
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Rusho81 wrote: Stupid question time  What is a tirfor??? Is it a hand winch?
Yep 
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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 Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 8:26 pm |
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joseph wrote: Rusho81 wrote: Stupid question time  What is a tirfor??? Is it a hand winch? Yep 
and they are shit 
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Joe

I live here!
Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 49041 Location: Rockingham W.A
Vehicle: JB74
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 Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 8:33 pm |
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shep wrote: joseph wrote: Rusho81 wrote: Stupid question time  What is a tirfor??? Is it a hand winch? Yep  and they are shit 
Yeah stuff doing hard work  go for an electric winch
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Brett

az supporter
Joined: Tue May 27, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1791 Location: Central coast NSW
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 Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:00 pm |
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if your really cheap get 4 or 5 snatch blocks and some good rope. this has got me out of a jam lots of times. you can add a high lift and some chain if you want.
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bigrig91
Joined: Mon May 11, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1308 Location: Redcliffe
Vehicle: 96 LWB Vit, 2.5L powerhouse
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another option, a medium size boat winch. 
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stockman

az supporter
Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 5319 Location: Canberra
Vehicle: 4wd
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 Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 3:45 am |
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Whats the down side to winches?
You have to beef up the electrical system?
There out in the weather all the time? Are they water tight?
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bagnkat

az supporter
Joined: Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 346 Location: Port Stephens.
Vehicle: SJ80
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oxygenthief wrote: Whats the down side to winches?
You have to beef up the electrical system? There out in the weather all the time? Are they water tight?
The winch and the bar to support it, adds a lot of weight over the front of the car.
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Brett

az supporter
Joined: Tue May 27, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1791 Location: Central coast NSW
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 Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 6:52 pm |
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you need to service winches, have to wire them up and most of the time you need a 2nd battery. they use a lot of power. in saying tat they are the ducks guts for a lazy man
for me snatch blocks are the go. that and 120 m of rope in a milk crate with a few shackles. i have pulled out my old sierra when is was up to the chassis in mud. took awhile but worked
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joeblow
Joined: Sat May 10, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 3273 Location: melbourne
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Brett wrote: if your really cheap get 4 or 5 snatch blocks and some good rope. this has got me out of a jam lots of times. you can add a high lift and some chain if you want.
 ....don't think the word is cheap....i think its being a tight.........
go electric 
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atari4x4

az supporter
Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:03 pm |
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^^^^ that is just disturbing joe....
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royce

omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:08 pm |
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shit shit shit shit shit
told you I would swear everytime you posted pics from your private collection Joe
Hand winches are awesome, when somebody else is stuck and you have some shade and a chair and a beer to watch
If you go that way a drag chain with a slip ring and shortening hook one end and a shortening hook the other end makes life a lot easier to rig up as well, I also made a new longer T handle up so that 2 people could swing it opposite each other, I called it my twin motor mod 
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Brett

az supporter
Joined: Tue May 27, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1791 Location: Central coast NSW
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ha ha no i had the bits from my climbing days so it didn't cost me anything. yes i'm tight, i own a sierra
if i can't get myself out with that and a shovel a winch isn't going to get me out.
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jexpat
Joined: Thu Apr 01, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 15 Location: Hunter
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I would take the weight of an electric over the pain of hand winch any day. Saved my ass in many a situation far from help over the years.
Pulled more than a few others out of trouble as well. Two or three every year every winter, in the mud or on the Oregon beaches.
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slowsierra
Joined: Sat May 23, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 415 Location: Greenbank, QLD
Vehicle: 89'SWBsierra&84'LWBsierra
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 Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 3:33 pm |
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but you can only pull yourself forward with a elec winch.correct?????
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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 Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 3:42 pm |
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slowsierra wrote: but you can only pull yourself forward with a elec winch.correct?????
you can turn cars around with a front mounted winch 
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lordfury007
Joined: Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 298 Location: Darwin, NT
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I once saw an interesting setup that did allow you to pull the car backwards from an electric winch... a lot of hard work and customisation went into it though...
its pretty hard to explain but i'll try...
The winch was mounted on a custom frame somewhere in the middle of the car. The winch cable went to the front of the car, and just before it got to the rollers mounted on the bullbar, it went around a block (like a snatchblock sort-of) and then went to a set of rollers at the back of the car where it was secured to (at a load rated point)
when he wanted to pull himself forward, he spooled out some slack into the cable, pulled the loop through the front rollers and put a snatch block over the loop, and attached that snatchblock to the anchor point (and left the very end of the winch cable secured to the load rated point at the back of the car.
when he wanted to pull himself backwards, he simply unhooked the end of the winch cable and hooked it up to the anchor point.
Pro's and cons that i can see:
Pro's:
Already setup with Snatch block for forwards pull (ie: twice winch power)
Can pull from front or rear
Con's
Cable possibly exposed for damage when not in use
Long cable required (especially for forwards pull as its doubled up.)
I always wondered whether you could make a strong enough mounting point in the engine bay somewhere and have the winch facing directly down to another very strong mounting point where a block is attached and the end of the cable is secured. All you'd need then is to get under the car when you need a winch, and pull the cable through whichever rollers you want...
Meh, even a Tirfor's better sometimes... Digging tunnels in mud was fun when i was 5.
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kenn
Joined: Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1202 Location: Melbourne
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slowsierra wrote: but you can only pull yourself forward with a elec winch.correct?????
If your clever and you've got 3 snatch block's,you can pull a car backwards with it's front mounted winch. No special mods required... 
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