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benji
Joined: Sun Apr 04, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 266 Location: coffs harbour
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who can tell me the difference in ratio's between 1.0 and 1.3
also are they a bolt in mod or is there some fab needed
looking to reclame low range and was hoping to not have to
go as far as 500 600 on reduction gears
cheers
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89_tintop

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Joined: Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3159 Location: gold coast
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dont know the ratios..
they are a bolt in job. no fab work required
your better off saving the $$$ and getting reduction gears, they are well worth the money.
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Zook_Fan

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Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4530 Location: Toowoomba
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from memory it is 12% but it has been a while..
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v.w.dave
Joined: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1437 Location: The Hills Sydney
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you can get 4:6-1 and 4:16-1 if you don't want 6:5s but if you are running anything bigger then 31s or you do anything major you want 6:5s. They are a good price right now. From low range
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rogerworkman
Joined: Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 82 Location: brisbane
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neofitou
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 1088 Location: Melbourne
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I have the 1l (no light) in my 1.3 NT pushing 31"
You need to have parts the driveline from both in order to connect the 1l side up against the transfer case and yours from the rest.
You take apart all the unis, and use the flanges and caps/bearings from the 1L driveline and make them into a hybrid joint, the 1L case has a smaller shaft and bolt pattern, but the inside of the uni is the same size.
I really should have taken some pictures. Basically you end with all the unis that are attached to the transfer case being half 1l and half 1.3l.
I plan on rebuilding my busted leaking 1.3 Tcase with rockhoppers eventually, but for now the 12% reduction is good especially for $100 vs the $600 for the rebuild/rockhopper kit I am hoppy for now.
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benji
Joined: Sun Apr 04, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 266 Location: coffs harbour
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303zuke

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Joined: Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2447
Vehicle: LJ50V, SJ70
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benji wrote: who can tell me the difference in ratio's between 1.0 and 1.3 also are they a bolt in mod or is there some fab needed looking to reclaim low range and was hoping to not have to go as far as 500 600 on reduction gears
cheers
1.3lt case: Hi 1.409, Lo 2.268
1.0lt case: Hi 1.580, Lo 2.511
4.16 gears: Hi 1.580, Lo 4.163
4.9 gears: Hi 1.629, Lo 4.868
5.14 gears: Hi 1.662, Lo 5.140
6.5 gears: Hi 1.690, Lo 6.500
The gears are bolt in, except the 6.5s may need a little case trimming inside for clearance.
For the price of finding a set of used 1.0 gears and then mucking around changing flanges (or unis) on your case anyway, you may as well stump up a couple of hundred more for some brand new gears that will give you far superior improvement. The 4.16 gears are hugely underrated in the improvement they will make to a mildly modded car.
4.16 gears kits (ie w/ Gaskets, seals and needle bearings) are currently on sale from Lowrange Offroad for US$415, and with the great exchange rate at the moment you should be able to land them here for around AU$500
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benji
Joined: Sun Apr 04, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 266 Location: coffs harbour
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whats peoples thoughts 4.16 enough or if your going to the trouble should you go all out and get 6.5 ????????
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Ben_Sierra

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Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4472 Location: Perth
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Depends on what size tyres you are running, how much highway driving you are doing, and what sort of wheeling you do....
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bogfrog

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Joined: Mon Dec 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 596 Location: Mt Evelyn Vic
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Hi guys sorry to hijack this thread but I have been running the sums for what I'm looking at running just wanted your thoughts on this set up and how you think it would drive on and off road? and also do you think 33" tyre's are to big for this set up?
here is the Suzuki gear calculator if you want to play with some figures:
http://www.lepayne.com/gears.html
Cheers Robb.
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jdk81
Joined: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2372 Location: Ballarat, VIC
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Highway cruising with be approx 3900 rpm
Mine with stockies cruises at about 4100, the engine doesnt seem to mind it too much and fuel economy isnt too bad either.
Im running stock diff ratios, 6.5 and 32" pedes (33.7" OD), however I rarely use 1st low.
It may be a clutch burner in some off road circumstances (crawling).
But I dont see much of an issue with it really.
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bogfrog

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Joined: Mon Dec 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 596 Location: Mt Evelyn Vic
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bogfrog wrote: Hi guys sorry to hijack this thread but I have been running the sums for what I'm looking at running just wanted your thoughts on this set up and how you think it would drive on and off road? and also do you think 33" tyre's are to big for this set up?  here is the Suzuki gear calculator if you want to play with some figures: http://www.lepayne.com/gears.htmlCheers Robb. jdk81 wrote: Highway cruising with be approx 3900 rpm Mine with stockies cruises at about 4100, the engine doesnt seem to mind it too much and fuel economy isnt too bad either. Im running stock diff ratios, 6.5 and 32" pedes (33.7" OD), however I rarely use 1st low. It may be a clutch burner in some off road circumstances (crawling).? But I dont see much of an issue with it really.
thanks for your thought's jdk81! why do you think it'll be a clutch burner Not low enough for crawling?
Anyone else have thought's on this or advice on which way I should head with it? cheers Robb
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Red89
Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2801 Location: Perth
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I have 5.14's in the TC and 32" Pedes and found when it was locked front and rear 1st low wasnt low enough when wanting to crawl up steps and larger rocks.
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