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Joe
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Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 49041 Location: Rockingham W.A
Vehicle: JB74
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 Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:01 am |
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Gday guys just a quick one for yas.....this arvo when i went to leave work i started my car and it was running real rough like it was firing on two or three cyclinders when i gave it a couple of revs it sort of came back to normal but now it has a slight miss when idling 
Now since i left work this arvo ive done about 100 kms and it hasn't done the rough miss fire again but it still does miss when idling....
So do you guys have an idea of where i should start looking??????
Oh yeah it's a 96 efi 1600 5 speed 
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royce
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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:03 am |
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plug, plug lead, injectors, loose wire
dont want to know about the rest, see if its shitty when it starts tomorrow
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redzook91
Joined: Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 509 Location: Brisbane
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Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:03 am |
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have you washed it/has it been raining recently? mine did exactly the same thing after a tubbing and a quick squirt of W-40 in the dizzy cap sorted it...
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Joe
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Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 49041 Location: Rockingham W.A
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Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:09 am |
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royce wrote: plug, plug lead, injectors, loose wire
dont want to know about the rest, see if its shitty when it starts tomorrow
Yeah thats my plan ATM
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dezook
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Joined: Thu Mar 04, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 324 Location: West Sydney
Vehicle: Suzuki Vitara SV620, 2.5turbo
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Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 11:37 am |
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Chuck it away and put a V6 in.Fix's that problem good and proper 
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atari4x4
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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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dezook wrote: Chuck it away and put a V6 in.Fix's that problem good and proper x 2
then you only have to worry about the coil packs & probes failing.....
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MacDaddy
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Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 10453 Location: Perth, Australia
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Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 1:17 pm |
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joseph wrote: Gday guys just a quick one for yas.....this arvo when i went to leave work i started my car and it was running real rough like it was firing on two or three cyclinders when i gave it a couple of revs it sort of came back to normal but now it has a slight miss when idling Now since i left work this arvo ive done about 100 kms and it hasn't done the rough miss fire again but it still does miss when idling.... So do you guys have an idea of where i should start looking?????? Oh yeah it's a 96 efi 1600 5 speed We have had some quite cold nights with a fair bit of moisture in the Air, as the grass has been wet with no rain... i would check out moisture first, spray some CRC around the leads, dizzy and coil... also, just make sure one of your HT Leads isnt near the body of the car, had it happen in my Vit...  
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Joe
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Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 49041 Location: Rockingham W.A
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Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:16 pm |
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Car still has the slight miss this morning so i will change the plugs and leads and see if that makes a difference  fingers crossed
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:04 am |
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joseph wrote: Car still has the slight miss this morning so i will change the plugs and leads and see if that makes a difference fingers crossed Water level in the radiator still full?
Dan
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Joe
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 8:40 am |
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JrZook wrote: joseph wrote: Car still has the slight miss this morning so i will change the plugs and leads and see if that makes a difference fingers crossed Water level in the radiator still full? Dan Funny you say that over the last couple of weeks its been droping down by about 1 cup full per week but i dont know where its going
There is no water in oil or vice versa
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steak_knife
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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:23 am |
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joseph wrote: JrZook wrote: joseph wrote: Car still has the slight miss this morning so i will change the plugs and leads and see if that makes a difference fingers crossed Water level in the radiator still full? Dan Funny you say that over the last couple of weeks its been droping down by about 1 cup full per week but i dont know where its going There is no water in oil or vice versa On to your spark plug's (causing a miss) & out the Huge cannon out the back..
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Joe
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Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 49041 Location: Rockingham W.A
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:31 am |
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steknig wrote: joseph wrote: JrZook wrote: joseph wrote: Car still has the slight miss this morning so i will change the plugs and leads and see if that makes a difference fingers crossed Water level in the radiator still full? Dan Funny you say that over the last couple of weeks its been droping down by about 1 cup full per week but i dont know where its going There is no water in oil or vice versa On to your spark plug's (causing a miss) & out the Huge cannon out the back.. Im getting plugs and leads tomorrow arvo and do ya mean the coolant is going out the cannon????is that bad???
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steak_knife
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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:49 am |
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Out the exhaust pipe, maybe.
have a good look at the color of the plug's when thay out, do a compression test to if you can..
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:52 am |
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Can be seeping into the cylinders when the engine cools. To test this fire it up in the morn, if it miss fires kill it straight away and look at the plugs. If one is wet with coolent thne you have found your prob. Could be a headgasket.
Dan
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Joe
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Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 49041 Location: Rockingham W.A
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 1:11 pm |
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JrZook wrote: Can be seeping into the cylinders when the engine cools. To test this fire it up in the morn, if it miss fires kill it straight away and look at the plugs. If one is wet with coolent thne you have found your prob. Could be a headgasket.
Dan
 bugger i hope thats not the case
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redzook91
Joined: Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 509 Location: Brisbane
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Did you try the WD-40? It's not the most complex solution but better to start with the simple stuff. I though mine was farked, missing heaps and running really rough - just for some moisture in the dizzy cap. May not work but if it does it will save some head scratching...
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Joe
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Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 49041 Location: Rockingham W.A
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 1:35 pm |
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redzook91 wrote: Did you try the WD-40? It's not the most complex solution but better to start with the simple stuff. I though mine was farked, missing heaps and running really rough - just for some moisture in the dizzy cap. May not work but if it does it will save some head scratching...
Nah not yet but i will try this tomorrow when i put new leads and plugs on her
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redzook91
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:05 pm |
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fair enough, hope it works out mate
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banga
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 6:44 pm |
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if it is using water and you don't know where it is going its more likely be the head gasket
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Joe
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 8:26 pm |
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I cheaked the coolant level this morning and it hasn't droped at in the last week and a half so i think it was just going back into the over flow bottle
When its doing this miss it only does it when idling not when under load or driving along and it hasn't lost any power so i dont think it would be head gasket....
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atari4x4
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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:37 am |
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clutching at straws.... are any of the plug leads touching each other, cable tied together? pop the bonnet somewhere where it's dark, fire it up & check if you can see any spark jumping from one lead to the other.
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stockman
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Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 5319 Location: Canberra
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:45 am |
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Try putting the motor into a sierra. That should fix it :p
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Joe
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:29 am |
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Well i went to four different shops this arvo and no one had any spark plug leads for me so i just changed the plugs and hey presto she is running sweet
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:36 am |
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haha i bet you had a massive *phew* moment when that happened =)
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Joe
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:11 am |
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alien wrote: haha i bet you had a massive *phew* moment when that happened =)
Yeah fuck yeah i did my gearbox is still poo though so im still sad about that
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:18 am |
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how much do suzistore want for a wrecked one? then again its a good opportunity to fit reduction gears...
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Joe
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:23 am |
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$800 for a second hand one with three month waranty or $1500 for a full recond box with fitting included in that price so im going a recond jobby just for peice of mind as late next year we are driving to Cairns so better to be safe then sorry....
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MacDaddy
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Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 10453 Location: Perth, Australia
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:24 pm |
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joseph wrote: $800 for a second hand one with three month waranty or $1500 for a full recond box with fitting included in that price so im going a recond jobby just for peice of mind as late next year we are driving to Cairns so better to be safe then sorry....
Your driving to Cairns in your SWB Soft Top
I would have thought the LWB HT Vit would be better for that Longggggg drive
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:41 pm |
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he's just more of a man than you macbear =P haha
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MacDaddy
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 6:28 am |
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alien wrote: he's just more of a man than you macbear =P haha
Ha ha... 4000kms of a Soft Top flapping in the wind would drive me insane ! 
And you feel the temp outside more in a Soft Top, and a SWB dont hold alot of stuff for a 4000km journey... at least the LWB Vit would be more suited to that kind of longggg journey, and it can carry more necessities...
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