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matfan

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Joined: Sat May 29, 2010 4:27 pm Posts: 935 Location: Paraguay
Vehicle: WT Tinny, NT lwb, 1L lwb
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 Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 4:15 am |
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I'm about ready to tear my hair out. I've had this noise under load for a while now and I figured it was the countershaft. So I changed the transfer case over and the noise is still there.
The noise relates to the speed of the jackshaft, that is, it increases with speed but at a much faster rate in low range. Last night I noticed that the uni on the back of the jackshaft had some play in it in one direction. (i hope i'm explaining that correctly. the uni moves in 2 directions, one of those has lateral play)
I'm told it can't be the gearbox because it makes the noise in 4th gear as well. It isn't the tailshaft because when I put the transfer in neutral and accelerate in gear the noise is still there.
If anyone has any ideas I'm am willing to offer my first born son/daughter as a gift of thanks.
_________________ JrZook - Mine only hangs 2.5".
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 7:08 am |
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matfan wrote: If anyone has any ideas I'm am willing to offer my first born son/daughter as a gift of thanks.
How old, are thay ready to work??
Jack up the rear & put stand's under the axle's or spring's, start it up & get it to make the noise, then listen to where it come's....
Unlock your front hub's & putt in 2wd to, for safety.. 
_________________ I used to be indecisive,
now I'm not so sure.....
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matfan

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Joined: Sat May 29, 2010 4:27 pm Posts: 935 Location: Paraguay
Vehicle: WT Tinny, NT lwb, 1L lwb
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 Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 8:29 am |
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steknig wrote: matfan wrote: If anyone has any ideas I'm am willing to offer my first born son/daughter as a gift of thanks. How old, are thay ready to work??
They're not born yet, but I will train them to do your bidding!
Because the noise is apparent while the transfer case is in neutral I don't need to lift the rear wheels, It's hard to pinpoint the noise, it sounds like it's coming from somewhere between the "S" badge on the front and the tail lights.
Ok seriously now, it does sound like it's coming from the jackshaft. I spoke to Graeme at suzi auto but he doesn't think it would make noise. I replaced the uni-joints a few months ago. I think maybe the watchamacallit that holds the uni on is a bit too wide therefore allowing lateral movement.
_________________ JrZook - Mine only hangs 2.5".
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jake_
Joined: Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 33 Location: Victoira
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 Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 10:48 am |
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whats it sound like? Are you sure its not the thrust bearing or spigot bearing?
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89_tintop

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Joined: Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3159 Location: gold coast
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 Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 11:17 am |
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could it be something in the input of the transfer??
just because it is in neutral doesnt meen gears inside the box arent moving
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matfan

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Joined: Sat May 29, 2010 4:27 pm Posts: 935 Location: Paraguay
Vehicle: WT Tinny, NT lwb, 1L lwb
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 Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 3:32 pm |
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jake_ wrote: whats it sound like? Are you sure its not the thrust bearing or spigot bearing? Can't be thrust or spigot bearings, the noise changes with output speed not engine speed. The noise is harmonic. 89_tintop wrote: could it be something in the input of the transfer?? just because it is in neutral doesnt meen gears inside the box arent moving
Can't be the transfer case, I swapped it over. The only original transfer parts are the flanges.
I am pretty sure it'll be the jackshaft output uni-joint but I haven't seen any other zook with that problem. I can't seem to track one down to swap and test.
_________________ JrZook - Mine only hangs 2.5".
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 9:03 pm |
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matfan wrote: I am pretty sure it'll be the jackshaft output uni-joint but I haven't seen any other zook with that problem. I can't seem to track one down to swap and test.
I have one out of a car, but it IS going back into the car, what part of briz you in????
Oh, & I'm not coming to you.. 
_________________ I used to be indecisive,
now I'm not so sure.....
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mnemonix

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Joined: Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1409 Location: Newcastle NSW
Vehicle: '96 LWB trayback
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 Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 11:02 pm |
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Drop out the jackshaft between gearbox and transfer case and see if it still makes the noise. The only way to rule out whether its downstream of the gearbox or not.
If the noise goes away, suspect a worn input shaft, or most likely counter shaft/needle bearing in the transfer.
It could just be a uni, depending on how savage the noise is. Why not replace the simple part for $30 and peace of mind that it won't fail you in the future.
_________________ Twin charged twin cam twin locked webwheeler
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matfan

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Joined: Sat May 29, 2010 4:27 pm Posts: 935 Location: Paraguay
Vehicle: WT Tinny, NT lwb, 1L lwb
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 Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 4:57 am |
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steknig wrote: matfan wrote: I am pretty sure it'll be the jackshaft output uni-joint but I haven't seen any other zook with that problem. I can't seem to track one down to swap and test. I have one out of a car, but it IS going back into the car, what part of briz you in???? Oh, & I'm not coming to you.. 
Thanks for the offer steknig, I'm at Mt Gravatt. I'd love to take you up on the offer. It would be nice to test it out before I fork out any more money.
_________________ JrZook - Mine only hangs 2.5".
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 7:35 am |
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matfan wrote: steknig wrote: matfan wrote: I am pretty sure it'll be the jackshaft output uni-joint but I haven't seen any other zook with that problem. I can't seem to track one down to swap and test. I have one out of a car, but it IS going back into the car, what part of briz you in???? Oh, & I'm not coming to you..  Thanks for the offer steknig, I'm at Mt Gravatt. I'd love to take you up on the offer. It would be nice to test it out before I fork out any more money.
Your round the corner then.....
Pm sent..
_________________ I used to be indecisive,
now I'm not so sure.....
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