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billrogers
Joined: Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:03 pm Posts: 81 Location: Dubbo 2830 NSW
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I am led to beleive that this block conversion has been acheived, I still want to use all the top end, and all from the G1.3bb
Any help appreciated Bill
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Fatzook

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 Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:34 am |
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It has been done.
Any reason why you only want to swap the bottom end?
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billrogers
Joined: Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:03 pm Posts: 81 Location: Dubbo 2830 NSW
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 Was trying to simplify,, seems easier to do just the bottom end without getting into the elecronics... ?? Bill
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BlueSuzy

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I have heard this has been done with a baleno block, Unsure of any issues during build though..
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Joe

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Im pretty sure Alien has this set up in his sierra
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Joe

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Um a G13BB is from a jimny ay 
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BlueSuzy

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Aliens got a vit motor.
G13bb is early jimny motor
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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joseph wrote: Um a G13BB is from a jimny ay 
early jimny
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Joe

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BlueSuzy wrote: Aliens got a vit motor.
G13bb is early jimny motor
Yeah a vit 1600 block with a jimny top end 
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Joe

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Fatzook wrote: joseph wrote: Um a G13BB is from a jimny ay  early jimny
 its not often im right 
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billrogers
Joined: Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:03 pm Posts: 81 Location: Dubbo 2830 NSW
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 Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 2:19 am |
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[i]I forgot to mention that this convert is anticipated on a '99 jimny G13bb Auto..... Bill
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Hybrid

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Joined: Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1095 Location: Bulimba, Brisbane
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Hows your clearance between the head and bonnet as is? Obviously the G16 block will make the engine taller.
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Joe

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billrogers wrote: [i]I forgot to mention that this convert is anticipated on a '99 jimny G13bb Auto..... Bill Give Suzistore a call they just had a jimny with a 1600 bottom end conversion in there shop a few weeks ago Hybrid wrote: Hows your clearance between the head and bonnet as is? Obviously the G16 block will make the engine taller.
The jimny mentioned above didn't have a body lift so i dont think it would be to much of a problem
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Hybrid

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Oooooh haven't been around for a while. I thought Alien had a sierra.
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Hybrid wrote: Oooooh haven't been around for a while. I thought Alien had a sierra.
He does have a sierra, with a 1600 block and jimny top end
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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yeah i run that in mine - im using the suzistore adaptor kit for g16 bottom end, jimny bb top end and computer etc... it means you get to keep the airbox and everything the same and lets you run a purchased snorkel. It also keeps the engine bay very tidy.
Mines in a sierra and no bodylift - it doesnt sit that tall compared to when i had a weber on the top (i had to cut the bracing out of the bonnet to make it fit).
I think your biggest hurdle is an adaptor kit for a 1.6 in a jimny... but im sure someones made them, or at least knows how. If you get stuck www.suzistore.com.au can fab them - and they know suzukis very well!
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billrogers
Joined: Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:03 pm Posts: 81 Location: Dubbo 2830 NSW
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Thanks for all your inputs. I will get in touch with suzistore and see what they can come up with..
Hey Alien What is the performance like ? I anticipate it to be better than a straight G16 ??
Regards Bill
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
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i went from g13a to g16a... that was a massive difference! then about a year and a bit later i put a weber on, another huge difference.. then years later its now efi using the jimny top end and its the difference between 1.3 and 1.6 all over again... it feels like torque has doubled. power feels about the same as the weber but far torquier (is that a word?)... i dont think anyone would ever regret it.
Not sure on straight g16b, but it would put out more power i'd think - the torque band would be questionable though - you'd assume its max torque would be higher in the rev range when compared to a frankenstein style g13bb/g16 engine.
Oh - and dont forget you need to use g16b pistons in the bottom end - so you can use a g16a bottom end but need to change pistons over.
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billrogers
Joined: Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:03 pm Posts: 81 Location: Dubbo 2830 NSW
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Thanks Alien, Hey I might be back to 'pick your knowledge' some more.
Regards Bill
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Fatzook

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alien wrote: I think your biggest hurdle is an adaptor kit for a 1.6 in a jimny... but im sure someones made them, or at least knows how. If you get stuck www.suzistore.com.au can fab them - and they know suzukis very well!
Same as sierra. The BB box bolts into a sierra. Even the internals are interchangable with sierra.
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Fatzook

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 Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 8:41 am |
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billrogers wrote: Thanks for all your inputs. I will get in touch with suzistore and see what they can come up with.. Hey Alien What is the performance like ? I anticipate it to be better than a straight G16 ?? Regards Bill
Power of G16B would be more. Same with the torque. But the difference would not be more than 5kw I would imagine.
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billrogers
Joined: Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:03 pm Posts: 81 Location: Dubbo 2830 NSW
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 Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 8:57 am |
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OK so now I am up to fitting a G16B block in place of my G13BB, still using the G13BB top end and Electronics... The next prob could be fitting up to the Auto box???
Regards Bill
WANTED: G16B Bottom end complete, any cond considered, will rebuild, if necessary........................... < billrogers@live.com >
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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Auto will fit the same as the manual will.
PM BenT. He makes the adaptors.
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losfer

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Joined: Fri Mar 30, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 977
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i did the exact same conversion about 5 years ago , but i didnt use an adaptor plate as i looked closely at how the torque convertor drove the pump in the transmission , the tangs dont go in that far to start with , then pulling them out an extra what 5-6mm , didnt want to risk it.
modified the bellhousing to bolt to the 1.6 engine , its no big deal as even if the trans needed changing , the bellhousing unbolts and can be swapped over.
1 more thing , alignment is absolutely critical with the auto , i didnt quite get it right the 1st time , and it broke a flex plate every 1000km's , took 2 broken flex plates to figure something wasnt quite right , the alignment was out about .5mm!!
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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Fatzook wrote: alien wrote: I think your biggest hurdle is an adaptor kit for a 1.6 in a jimny... but im sure someones made them, or at least knows how. If you get stuck www.suzistore.com.au can fab them - and they know suzukis very well! Same as sierra. The BB box bolts into a sierra. Even the internals are interchangable with sierra.
I was also referring to engine mounts, theres adaptors for that too...
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Fatzook

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alien wrote: Fatzook wrote: alien wrote: I think your biggest hurdle is an adaptor kit for a 1.6 in a jimny... but im sure someones made them, or at least knows how. If you get stuck www.suzistore.com.au can fab them - and they know suzukis very well! Same as sierra. The BB box bolts into a sierra. Even the internals are interchangable with sierra. I was also referring to engine mounts, theres adaptors for that too...
got ya 
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