[smiffkid]

i have just done a 1.6 conversion in my jimny and im wonderinf if any 1 knows how or where i can get either a super charger or turbo for it.
and if there is any bolt on kits for this enigne type

[Lockie666]

You live in Perth, I must see such a conversion!

There are a couple of people on this forum with turboed zooks, no 1.6's that I can think off the top of my head

[lordfury007]

The guy i bought my car off was going to turbo charge it and sold it to me with a G17 Garret turbo, along with a XR6 Front mount intercooler. It needed a manifold built for it along with all the valves and such, and i decided that for the cost of it, i didn't need the extra power, so i sold the parts.

Good luck if you do want to go for it though.

[Fatzook]

Lockie666 wrote:

You live in Perth, I must see such a conversion!

There are a couple of people on this forum with turboed zooks, no 1.6's that I can think off the top of my head

00zuk has a turbo 1.6 in his sierra.

No off the shelf kits available unfortunately, but you should be able to find a GOOD local tuner/motorsport guy and get them to do the conversion for you.

[SuziBlu]

id love a sc12 or sc14 hooked up, bottom end grunt, yaaaa.

[gusbus]

here u go smiffkid its seems fairly well priced to me ...its what im thinkin of chuckin on the 1.3 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... MEWAX%3AIT

[Gwagensteve]

gusbus wrote:

here u go smiffkid its seems fairly well priced to me ...its what im thinkin of chuckin on the 1.3 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... MEWAX%3AIT

There's heaps of these "kits" on the interweb and they're just a pile of chinese made pseudo bling. There's no solutions in a kit like that, only problems - it's some hoses and a chinese copy turbo that's miles and miles too big for a 1.6. When these came up previously the vendor was listing the same turbo specs and kit description (and photograph) for a 1.3 sierra and a Ferrari F355 motor. Go figure.

You'll notice there's no manifolds, or any means of tuning the computer.

Expect a well sorted, reliable turbo conversion to cost $4-6K and include lots of dyno time. Supercharging might be able to be done for a little less, but the ability to push lots of air into the motor at very low RPM brings its own tuning difficulties.

Steve.

[ninjadaniel]

a sc12 supercharger would be very easy install, better yet an m45 eaton- can be bought from ebay usa for cheap. All you have to work out is the tensioner and engine management. Id definitely look at installing a $500 megasquirt with $200 wideband for self tuning capabilities.

[Fatzook]

Gwagensteve wrote:

gusbus wrote:

here u go smiffkid its seems fairly well priced to me ...its what im thinkin of chuckin on the 1.3 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... MEWAX%3AIT

There's heaps of these "kits" on the interweb and they're just a pile of chinese made pseudo bling. There's no solutions in a kit like that, only problems - it's some hoses and a chinese copy turbo that's miles and miles too big for a 1.6. When these came up previously the vendor was listing the same turbo specs and kit description (and photograph) for a 1.3 sierra and a Ferrari F355 motor. Go figure.

You'll notice there's no manifolds, or any means of tuning the computer.

Expect a well sorted, reliable turbo conversion to cost $4-6K and include lots of dyno time. Supercharging might be able to be done for a little less, but the ability to push lots of air into the motor at very low RPM brings its own tuning difficulties.

Steve.

Couldn't have said it better myslef. The chinese kit is a "one size fits all' approach, which IMO is about as usefull as a C&*T full of cold water.

Smiffkid..... Whats your budget?

[mnemonix]

ninjadaniel wrote:

a sc12 supercharger would be very easy install, better yet an m45 eaton- can be bought from ebay usa for cheap. All you have to work out is the tensioner and engine management. Id definitely look at installing a $500 megasquirt with $200 wideband for self tuning capabilities.

Installing the supercharger is a piece of piss.
I've done it with an sc14 on my 1.6/gti hybrid.
And since removed it..

Getting the tune right across the entire rev range is not an easy task, and not something you'll fudge on the road with a budget ecu like a megashonk and a DIY wideband tune.

My car has taken several trips to the dyno, full standalone ecu and competent tuners, using a dyno dynamics.
And still, I don't trust the longevity of the engine in this configuration.

I will be reinstalling the sc14 in the near future as part of some overall engine works because I think it is a better option for my needs than a turbocharger. However you can't fall for the common misconception that it's a cheap or simple task. The average joe typically ends up with a poor performer or a hand grenade engine.

Cheap, fast, reliable - You can only choose 2.

[SuziBlu]

What about a Eaton M45 with a carb, suck thru.

Is this something to contemplate or fuel injection only.

Even a sc14 would be fine, and ok if it could be used with a carb.

[Fatzook]

SuziBlu wrote:

What about a Eaton M45 with a carb, suck thru.

Is this something to contemplate or fuel injection only.

Even a sc14 would be fine, and ok if it could be used with a carb.

I have an M45 here, and they look to be very hard to accomodate in a sierra engine bay when you already have a G16 fitted. SC14 would be better I think. More compact.

[bazook]

whats the subaru supercharger

[bakerboy]

Lockie666 wrote:

You live in Perth, I must see such a conversion!

There are a couple of people on this forum with turboed zooks, no 1.6's that I can think off the top of my head

A lecturer at murdoch uni (bloke called mark) has an sc12 and water to air intercooler in his zook, running the clutch setup on the charger etc, cool little zook, selling it for 8g now

[Fatzook]

bazook wrote:

whats the subaru supercharger

ARM300?

[oozuk]

Turbo of supercharged, either way you go you better have deep pockets. If you cut corners on anything your wasting your time

[atari4x4]

it's easy you need one of these and one of those & you'll be set for max power.

[steak_knife]

atari4x4 wrote:

it's easy you need one of these and one of those & you'll be set for max power.

Now that's power..

[matty87]

get 2 hiclones and put them inline and you will get heaps more power coz it will cut and twist the air into the engine and make it burn better

[dominator]

i started looking into this. I was thinking of doing a SC12 cause some people had said the SC14 was a bit to big. Only wanted to run a 4 or 6PSI for a bit more torque down low. Not to worried about up high. For fuel i was gonna piggyback a apexi safc and a bigger fuel pump and after market regulator. Am i dreaming? I am not to concerned about driveability on the road as this is a trailer whore and only gets driven on the tracks.

[matty87]

dominator wrote:

i started looking into this. I was thinking of doing a SC12 cause some people had said the SC14 was a bit to big. Only wanted to run a 4 or 6PSI for a bit more torque down low. Not to worried about up high. For fuel i was gonna piggyback a apexi safc and a bigger fuel pump and after market regulator. Am i dreaming? I am not to concerned about driveability on the road as this is a trailer whore and only gets driven on the tracks.

its very doable and at 4 to 6 psi all your internals will be up to the job. also at that low level of boost the stock fueling should be able to manage it as they dont operate at their upper limit.

[MrRocky]

I am planning on knocking up a couple of steampipe manifolds in the next month or two, using a subaru turbo, depending on how happy iam with the finished product i may put a couple up for sale.
I have done a fair bit of reasearch and 4psi seems to be the max for the standard computers ability to cope, if you exceed this amount of boost it becomes a matter of when its going to blow up rather than if.

[jonno_racing]

i have sceen stock GTI's take 10psi daily with only a chip in the comp. and thats been running for over 2 years!! with a grand total of a blown head gasket!

the right tuneing is the key.. suzuki motors are tuff and will take a bit!

[mnemonix]

MrRocky wrote:

I am planning on knocking up a couple of steampipe manifolds in the next month or two, using a subaru turbo, depending on how happy iam with the finished product i may put a couple up for sale.
I have done a fair bit of reasearch and 4psi seems to be the max for the standard computers ability to cope, if you exceed this amount of boost it becomes a matter of when its going to blow up rather than if.

How do you plan to restrict the subaru turbo to only make 4psi?

jonno_racing wrote:

i have sceen stock GTI's take 10psi daily with only a chip in the comp. and thats been running for over 2 years!! with a grand total of a blown head gasket!

the right tuneing is the key.. suzuki motors are tuff and will take a bit!

Almost noone on this forum runs a gti engine, and the original post was regarding a g16 - which is a very different engine when it comes to forced induction. They're well known to have weak conrods and end cap bolts for a start.
How many GTI engines have you killed again?

However you'e right that tuning is the key to adding boost to a naturally aspirated motor, and this is not a cheap exercise if you're going to do it properly.

standalone computer, installation, experienced tuner and hours of dyno time. If you think you can add a turbo or supercharger with any significant power upgrade long term without spending some decent dollars first, you're having yourself on.

For every 1 person who's successfully boosted their N/A car without tackling these issues, you'll find 10 who've tried and failed.

[Fatzook]

mnemonix wrote:

For every 1 person who's successfully boosted their N/A car without tackling these issues, you'll find 50 who've tried and failed.

Fixed it for ya.

[DR_JOSH]

"I only want to run 4-6psi" very quickly turns into 10-12psi which then turns into 15-20psi. It's never enough. speaking from experience here.

[Fatzook]

DR_JOSH wrote:

"I only want to run 4-6psi" very quickly turns into 10-12psi which then turns into a wanted ad for a new motor

Fixed it for ya.

[MrRocky]

The main aim for me is to get the hardware functioning properly and
making the engine live at a very mild boost setting which seems to be 4psi judging from what the uk baleno gusy seem to run, eventually stepping up to a ems or wolf v4 computer and some JE pistons. I realize any n/a motor isnt going to survive redline in 40 degree heat churning through soft sand at length. I will play around with different waste gates and actuators to obtain my desired result of 4psi. All this goes without saying that it is pointless without checking a/f's on a dyno before proceeding to load the engine up.

[jonno_racing]

True i have killed one GTI motor and rebuilt my current one with a new crank..

but there are the facts that they were bought sight un seen off a forum and were both duds. my current motor has done twice the km's and has taken a hideing a few times and not even used so much as a drop of oil!

ok back on point...

if u want boost and easy power get ready to pay for it as vit motors are not suited to it.

[MrRocky]

i dont think its a matter of the vit motors not liking it, but more to the point
overenthusiastic owners that dont do there homework.
My experience with turbo cars (mainly vl turbo's and diesels) its about 15% hardware and 85% in the tune and fuel system, in relation to getting it right.