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Bigazza
Joined: Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 43 Location: Burpengary
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hey guys, GOT a vitara hardtop pretty cheap with a blown single point efi carby motor.
I also have a vn v6 auto that runs really well.
THE CHALLENGE is to fit a vn v6 into the vitara engine bay either with the auto or using the vitara 5 speed.
THe body will be chopped into a ute and the radiator in the tray, there is enough room for the motor.
DOES ANYONE KNOW IF ANYONE HAS A KIT TO JOIN THE VITARA 5 SPEED to the motor
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DOES ANYONE KNOW SOMEONE THAT CAN FABRICATE DRIVE SHAFTS TO THE TRANSFER AND TO THE DIFFS
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want33s

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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8134 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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PM me if you want to sell the dead motor and ECM.
Nobody makes an adaptor for Commo V6 to Vit box...
Any tailshaft shop can do shafts.. There are a few on the Sunshine Coast if you can't find anyone closer.
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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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want33s

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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8134 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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You CAN buy an adaptor for Commo V6 to Hilux box/transfer... Might be worth looking at.
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Red89
Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2801 Location: Perth
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Use the commodore auto and Lux transfer. What diffs do you plan on using ?
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TZAR

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Joined: Tue Aug 01, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 3461 Location: licking some windows
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Open tailgate of Vitara
Use engine crane and dump engine and box in the back
Light a fire
Burn aprrox 3000 dollars
Turn around and look at car
look at fire
Burn another $1500
Put ad for sale on here unfinished project V6 vitara for $6000
We laugh at you a lot
you evetually take it to the dump and realise you have wasted a good car and about $10000
Join forum and pay out next guy who does the same thing
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Westie

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Joined: Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 1417 Location: Caloundra Sunshine
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The guy from 4WD Action had a V6 in his sierra so maybe contact them and see if they can give you the thread on the build up
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appsie
Joined: Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2225
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just buy the one on ebay at the moment and save yaself some work and headaches
or spend not much and put another motor in it and drive as is
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Joe

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TZAR wrote: Open tailgate of Vitara Use engine crane and dump engine and box in the back Light a fire Burn aprrox 3000 dollars Turn around and look at car look at fire Burn another $1500 Put ad for sale on here unfinished project V6 vitara for $6000 We laugh at you a lot you evetually take it to the dump and realise you have wasted a good car and about $10000 Join forum and pay out next guy who does the same thing
TZAR hit the nail on the head with this one 
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Red89
Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2801 Location: Perth
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Joe wrote: TZAR wrote: Open tailgate of Vitara Use engine crane and dump engine and box in the back Light a fire Burn aprrox 3000 dollars Turn around and look at car look at fire Burn another $1500 Put ad for sale on here unfinished project V6 vitara for $6000 We laugh at you a lot you evetually take it to the dump and realise you have wasted a good car and about $10000 Join forum and pay out next guy who does the same thing TZAR hit the nail on the head with this one 
Have either of you seen one that has been built properly ? I wheel with a guy that has a VP V6 in a Sierra and it out wheels several other cars I know of. It is however not road driven and has been built well. Not my personal engine of choice but is an option none the less.
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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Red89 wrote: Joe wrote: TZAR wrote: Open tailgate of Vitara Use engine crane and dump engine and box in the back Light a fire Burn aprrox 3000 dollars Turn around and look at car look at fire Burn another $1500 Put ad for sale on here unfinished project V6 vitara for $6000 We laugh at you a lot you evetually take it to the dump and realise you have wasted a good car and about $10000 Join forum and pay out next guy who does the same thing TZAR hit the nail on the head with this one  Have either of you seen one that has been built properly ? I wheel with a guy that has a VP V6 in a Sierra and it out wheels several other cars I know of. It is however not road driven and has been built well. Not my personal engine of choice but is an option none the less.
Been there, done that. Its too much engine for a sierra ( both power and weight.....mostly weight  )
For all the effort thats involved, the 4AGZE is half the weight, half the work, and half the capacity. Same power, and about 70Nm less torque, but I think that suits the sierra better.
Same goes for the vitara. And atleast you have a chance of getting it engineered without having to sell your house to fund the process.
JMO
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Joe

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Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 49041 Location: Rockingham W.A
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Red89 wrote: Joe wrote: TZAR wrote: Open tailgate of Vitara Use engine crane and dump engine and box in the back Light a fire Burn aprrox 3000 dollars Turn around and look at car look at fire Burn another $1500 Put ad for sale on here unfinished project V6 vitara for $6000 We laugh at you a lot you evetually take it to the dump and realise you have wasted a good car and about $10000 Join forum and pay out next guy who does the same thing TZAR hit the nail on the head with this one  Have either of you seen one that has been built properly ? I wheel with a guy that has a VP V6 in a Sierra and it out wheels several other cars I know of. It is however not road driven and has been built well. Not my personal engine of choice but is an option none the less.
Are you talking about Duncan's thing?

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joeblow
Joined: Sat May 10, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 3273 Location: melbourne
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damn........that makes some of the women who are still at the pub for the last drinks call look damn hot. 
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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joeblow wrote: damn........that makes some of the women who are still at the pub for the last drinks call look damn hot. 

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TZAR

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Joined: Tue Aug 01, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 3461 Location: licking some windows
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Red89 wrote: Joe wrote: TZAR wrote: Open tailgate of Vitara Use engine crane and dump engine and box in the back Light a fire Burn aprrox 3000 dollars Turn around and look at car look at fire Burn another $1500 Put ad for sale on here unfinished project V6 vitara for $6000 We laugh at you a lot you evetually take it to the dump and realise you have wasted a good car and about $10000 Join forum and pay out next guy who does the same thing TZAR hit the nail on the head with this one  Have either of you seen one that has been built properly ? I wheel with a guy that has a VP V6 in a Sierra and it out wheels several other cars I know of. It is however not road driven and has been built well. Not my personal engine of choice but is an option none the less. Red69 if that is the car you are refereing too then lets have a good look at it. Okay has suzuki body suzuki bonnet suzuki badge and umm umm well umm well thats about it. The chassis has been cut shut welded lengthened and changed so you can't count that. So that car is basically some big diffs custom chassis and a huge arse super heavy VN v6 motor. Lets come back to comparing apples with apples I stick with this TZAR wrote: Open tailgate of Vitara Use engine crane and dump engine and box in the back Light a fire Burn aprrox 3000 dollars Turn around and look at car look at fire Burn another $1500 Put ad for sale on here unfinished project V6 vitara for $6000 We laugh at you a lot you evetually take it to the dump and realise you have wasted a good car and about $10000 Join forum and pay out next guy who does the same thing
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4x4ish
Joined: Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 752 Location: Brisbane
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make sure u leave extra money for a car trailer coz thats the only way it will travel. at the end of the day u will have a sierra with a powerful motor, unless u spend more $$$ on its suspension/ gear, and it wont go any further offroad.
options for driving are very limited :
landcruiser 4x4 park
scenic rim
other private property and small 4x4 parks.
just buy an old jeep, big engine similar shape as sierra. [flame suit on] 
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Red89
Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2801 Location: Perth
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TZAR wrote: Red89 wrote: Joe wrote: TZAR wrote: Open tailgate of Vitara Use engine crane and dump engine and box in the back Light a fire Burn aprrox 3000 dollars Turn around and look at car look at fire Burn another $1500 Put ad for sale on here unfinished project V6 vitara for $6000 We laugh at you a lot you evetually take it to the dump and realise you have wasted a good car and about $10000 Join forum and pay out next guy who does the same thing TZAR hit the nail on the head with this one  Have either of you seen one that has been built properly ? I wheel with a guy that has a VP V6 in a Sierra and it out wheels several other cars I know of. It is however not road driven and has been built well. Not my personal engine of choice but is an option none the less. Red69 if that is the car you are refereing too then lets have a good look at it. Okay has suzuki body suzuki bonnet suzuki badge and umm umm well umm well thats about it. The chassis has been cut shut welded lengthened and changed so you can't count that. So that car is basically some big diffs custom chassis and a huge arse super heavy VN v6 motor. Lets come back to comparing apples with apples I stick with this TZAR wrote: Open tailgate of Vitara Use engine crane and dump engine and box in the back Light a fire Burn aprrox 3000 dollars Turn around and look at car look at fire Burn another $1500 Put ad for sale on here unfinished project V6 vitara for $6000 We laugh at you a lot you evetually take it to the dump and realise you have wasted a good car and about $10000 Join forum and pay out next guy who does the same thing No lets compare apples with what was originally asked by the original poster. Bigazza wrote: hey guys, GOT a vitara hardtop pretty cheap with a blown single point efi carby motor. I also have a vn v6 auto that runs really well.
THE CHALLENGE is to fit a vn v6 into the vitara engine bay either with the auto or using the vitara 5 speed. THe body will be chopped into a ute and the radiator in the tray, there is enough room for the motor. DOES ANYONE KNOW IF ANYONE HAS A KIT TO JOIN THE VITARA 5 SPEED to the motor OR DOES ANYONE KNOW SOMEONE THAT CAN FABRICATE DRIVE SHAFTS TO THE TRANSFER AND TO THE DIFFS
Legalities, practicalities or asthetics were never mentioned. And so I stand by what I said, Yes it can be done and yes if done properly it can work and work quite well.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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and that abortion was a sierra, he was talking about a vitara.....
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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ok ill answer it the way the hardcores reckon its being asked
yes you can remove everything bar the chassis and half the cab an weld a thong slapper v6 in there and some bigger diffs and gearbox and rig up some steering just fine
dont bother calling it a suzuki though cause its not it will jsut be another slapped together compromise pretending to be a buggy and a full bodied 4wd, while failing at both
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TZAR

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Joined: Tue Aug 01, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 3461 Location: licking some windows
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well yes red dog we all know it will fit and if its done properly it will be smicko. If you asking were to get tailshafts made that doesn't inspire me that he will be doing a "smicko "job. More like a sheppo
I think he is refering to be a usual suzuki tightarese like all of us and just slap old v6 in with a couple of dogy arse welds and off we go.
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Bigazza
Joined: Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 43 Location: Burpengary
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Its not designed to be registered, all i wanted to know was can it be done and the question has been answered, who cares if its suzuki motor or not, a v6 power in a small car will make up for the weight of it. ITS CALLED BEING DIFFERENT, why have a vitara like everyone else, not a hell of alot of ute chopped vitaras running v6s is there.
AND IT WONT COST ME THAT MUCH AT ALL, FREE VITARA FREE COMMODORE, the money is in adaptor kit or running CUSTOM DRIVE SHAFTS, I HAVE HILUX DIFFS..
COSTS LOTS WHEN YOU LET OTHER PEOPLE DO IT, NOT WHEN DOING IT YOURSELF..
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Joe

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Bigazza wrote: Its not designed to be registered, all i wanted to know was can it be done and the question has been answered, who cares if its suzuki motor or not, a v6 power in a small car will make up for the weight of it. ITS CALLED BEING DIFFERENT, why have a vitara like everyone else, not a hell of alot of ute chopped vitaras running v6s is there.
AND IT WONT COST ME THAT MUCH AT ALL, FREE VITARA FREE COMMODORE, the money is in adaptor kit or running CUSTOM DRIVE SHAFTS, I HAVE HILUX DIFFS..
COSTS LOTS WHEN YOU LET OTHER PEOPLE DO IT, NOT WHEN DOING IT YOURSELF..
Heres one
http://auszookers.com/index.php?name=Fo ... 926#223926
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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Bigazza wrote: Its not designed to be registered, all i wanted to know was can it be done and the question has been answered, who cares if its suzuki motor or not, a v6 power in a small car will make up for the weight of it. ITS CALLED BEING DIFFERENT, why have a vitara like everyone else, not a hell of alot of ute chopped vitaras running v6s is there.
AND IT WONT COST ME THAT MUCH AT ALL, FREE VITARA FREE COMMODORE, the money is in adaptor kit or running CUSTOM DRIVE SHAFTS, I HAVE HILUX DIFFS..
COSTS LOTS WHEN YOU LET OTHER PEOPLE DO IT, NOT WHEN DOING IT YOURSELF..
tell me how you plan to get the diff in the front, and think hard and type slow cause man people wiht a fucking lot of brains have tried and its hard work to get right
why dont you sell the vit and buy a hilux with a rooted engine and stick your thong slapper in that, be easier and work better
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jonno_racing

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Bigazza
Joined: Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 43 Location: Burpengary
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why would i sell it and do what every other person does, hard work so? lots of time not meant to be done overnight, just gotta know people..
AND WHY BECAUSE ITS DIFFERENT
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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Bigazza wrote: AND WHY BECAUSE ITS DIFFERENT
Its not actually. Its been done plenty of times. And I could count the successful attempts on 2 fingers 
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Joe

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Fatzook wrote: Bigazza wrote: AND WHY BECAUSE ITS DIFFERENT
Its not actually. Its been done plenty of times. And I could count the successful attempts on 2 fingers 
Was one of them two the one you done?
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Bigazza
Joined: Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 43 Location: Burpengary
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well il try and make number 3 on ya hand..
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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Joe wrote: Fatzook wrote: Bigazza wrote: AND WHY BECAUSE ITS DIFFERENT
Its not actually. Its been done plenty of times. And I could count the successful attempts on 2 fingers  Was one of them two the one you done?
Well it was a sierra, but it was not a complete success by any stretch of the imagination. It wheeled what any sierra on 36's with lockers and coilovers and a 1.6L would wheel. Only difference is that the 1.6L version would have been able to travel at highway speeds ( assuming the tyres were radial and balanced) whereas the massive "thong slapper"  over the front end did nothing but ruin the handling of the vehicle at speed.
Its a bullshit, archaic engine, with fuck all HP/Litre, and does not belong in a small 4WD.
JMO
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Bigazza
Joined: Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 43 Location: Burpengary
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thanks for info and opinions, still going to do it tho. father son project.
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