[85Drover]

Looking at replacing my carby donk for something a bit newer that's efi preferably... and running.

Do the M13A/B's fit straight in? Anything else that would fit and is SUZUKI only. Don't want a bloody Datsun or Toybot donk. Annnddd how much would I be looking at for a secondhand engine upto 100,000km on it? Probably not a 1.6 vit engine either, i'm happy with a 1.3.

Cheers.

[Fatzook]

85Drover wrote:

Looking at replacing my carby donk for something a bit newer that's efi preferably... and running.

Do the M13A/B's fit straight in? Anything else that would fit and is SUZUKI only. Don't want a bloody Datsun or Toybot donk. Annnddd how much would I be looking at for a secondhand engine upto 100,000km on it? Probably not a 1.6 vit engine either, i'm happy with a 1.3.

Cheers.

G13BB jimny is a bolt in affair.

G16B vitara needs a simple adaptor kit.

M13 won't work with your gearbox.

G16B EFI conversion can be had for around $1200. PM me if you decide to go that way, as I can usually get low km import ones.

Freight to cairns would be about $200.

[jonno_racing]

g13b is a bolt in 2. kinda

[Fatzook]

jonno_racing wrote:

g13b is a bolt in 2. kinda

Thats the G13B twin cam

[jonno_racing]

sorry yeah the gti twin cam.. i have one in my zook and love it, tip tho if u do it rebuild it first

[85Drover]

Cheers fatzook and jonno. If I could get my hands on a GTi I would if it fit easially enough.

Are the G13bb a good donk? Any idea on prices? I guess it does vary from place to place, but a general idea?

Thanks a heap.

AND is there a need for engineering or anything for roadworthiness, rego etc, when changing engines? or is that mainly based or increase of capacity?

Cheers.

[Fatzook]

85Drover wrote:

Cheers fatzook and jonno. If I could get my hands on a GTi I would if it fit easially enough.

Are the G13bb a good donk? Any idea on prices? I guess it does vary from place to place, but a general idea? They are prone to cracked heads.

Thanks a heap.

AND is there a need for engineering or anything for roadworthiness, rego etc, when changing engines? or is that mainly based or increase of capacity? In QLD yes. You can get a MOD plate for up to 1.6L without needing to involve an engineer.
Cheers.

[jonno_racing]

i have to say even tho they are prone to cracking heads i have never sceen one do it yet.. i have spun many a big end from being 2 hot tho! i have also sceen them pull well over 100kw at the wheels stock. no mod plate was required in tassie alothough it differs state to state.

[85Drover]

Thanks again Fatzook. You're a bloody legend.




Another question, if I were to go a 1.6 conversion... how much would a mod plate and assessment cost?

[Fatzook]

jonno_racing wrote:

i have to say even tho they are prone to cracking heads i have never sceen one do it yet.. i have spun many a big end from being 2 hot tho! i have also sceen them pull well over 100kw at the wheels stock. no mod plate was required in tassie alothough it differs state to state.

I was talking about the BB jimny motor. I assume you are still dribbling on about that rubbish GTi motor of yours

[jonno_racing]

my bad! my mates super charged g13bb is still slower than my na gti and i am on 30's and he is on 30's

[85Drover]

What's the difference between the G13b and the G13bb engines?

[Choppy]

my mod plate for my 1.6L carb engine was around $100 from memory maybe a little less, got it done at an egnine shop and was done in like 15mins

[neofitou]

the diference
G13B - DOHC 16-valve EFI.
G13BB - SOHC 16-valve MPFI

[xedent]

Do I need an engineer from going 1l to 1.6 efi ?

[losfer]

jonno_racing wrote:

i have to say even tho they are prone to cracking heads i have never sceen one do it yet.. i have spun many a big end from being 2 hot tho! i have also sceen them pull well over 100kw at the wheels stock. no mod plate was required in tassie alothough it differs state to state.

id like to see this 134 hp stock engine ...

[losfer]

xedent wrote:

Do I need an engineer from going 1l to 1.6 efi ?

you need a mod plate to make it legal.

[grimbo]

xedent wrote:

Do I need an engineer from going 1l to 1.6 efi ?

Maybe you could try asking and engineer or roads corp in you state, instead of just guessing or asking some clown on a forum.

[Fatzook]

grimbo wrote:

Maybe you could try asking and engineer or roads corp in you state, instead of just guessing or asking some clown on a forum.

Hahaha.

You are a fuckwit on so many other forums. It makes sence that you be one here aswell

[atari4x4]

grimbo wrote:

xedent wrote:

Do I need an engineer from going 1l to 1.6 efi ?

Maybe you could try asking and engineer or roads corp in you state, instead of just guessing or asking some clown on a forum.

Nice first post cock smoker.... haven't you got a Suzuki section to moderate on 3wd Craption.

What are you doing here, you don't even own a Suzuki anymore?

[mnemonix]

"Bolt in" is a subjective term.
Plenty of ppl can bolt a g16b into a sierra - it's a piece of piss.
Not many can comfortably handle a wiring loom splice. Or do the job to anything approaching a professional standard.

How much of the job are you doing yourself and what are you skills?

G16a is the closest to a bolt in conversion with minimal work.

[grimbo]

Well hello to you two as well.
but calling me names will not make his conversion legal will it.

[Fatzook]

mnemonix wrote:

"Bolt in" is a subjective term.
Plenty of ppl can bolt a g16b into a sierra - it's a piece of piss.
Not many can comfortably handle a wiring loom splice. Or do the job to anything approaching a professional standard.

How much of the job are you doing yourself and what are you skills?

G16a is the closest to a bolt in conversion with minimal work.

All true.

But IMO the G16a isn't worth the effort. its only a 7kw gain.

[shep]

grimbo wrote:

Well hello to you two as well.
but calling me names will not make his conversion legal will it.

that may be the case however the people giving the advise are a little bit
more up to date on what is the go in QLD then a non Suzuki driving Victorian.

[TZAR]

grimbo wrote:

Well hello to you two as well.
but calling me names will not make his conversion legal will it.

FUCK OFF GRUMBO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[grimbo]

So are you saying that the 1lt to 1.6 conversion does not need to be engineered in QLD shep? I'd be very suprised if that were so.

Or are you just filling tech threads with rubbish just because you can?

[tombutt]

grimbo wrote:

xedent wrote:

Do I need an engineer from going 1l to 1.6 efi ?

Maybe you could try asking and engineer or roads corp in you state, instead of just guessing or asking some clown on a forum.

i have a funny feeling fatpukie knows what needs to be done to do this conversion how many you done now mr fat?

[shep]

grimbo wrote:

So are you saying that the 1lt to 1.6 conversion does not need to be engineered in QLD shep? I'd be very suprised if that were so.

Or are you just filling tech threads with rubbish just because you can?

how the fuck would i know , i live in the NT and all we have to do is change engine numbers with the MVR who also do a stolen number check. costs $32.50.

[Fatzook]

tombutt wrote:

grimbo wrote:

xedent wrote:

Do I need an engineer from going 1l to 1.6 efi ?

Maybe you could try asking and engineer or roads corp in you state, instead of just guessing or asking some clown on a forum.

i have a funny feeling fatpukie knows what needs to be done to do this conversion how many you done now mr fat?

A few.

And Grimbo, it is a simple mod plate for engines up to 1.6L into a sierra in QLD. Since the chassis does not change structurally between the 1.0L and 1.3L, they are treated the same with regards to engine swaps, assuming mods are carried out with correct engineering practice.

[jonno_racing]