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Glavas
Joined: Thu May 06, 2010 2:13 pm Posts: 322 Location: Adelaide
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 Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 9:45 am |
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There's 2 bars running from the back of the seat belt on the b pillar to the tub. Are they a pittyful attempt at preventing the b pillar caving in during a roll over?
Fitted a rollbar and they're scrubbing, want to know if i can just remove them and that's that!
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royce
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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 9:54 am |
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think of which direction the force would be on the seatbelt mount in a smash
think of what part looks to be a brace for that mount
think of what would happen to that mount with no bracing
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joeblow
Joined: Sat May 10, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 3273 Location: melbourne
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Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 9:55 am |
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Glavas wrote: There's 2 bars running from the back of the seat belt on the b pillar to the tub. Are they a pittyful attempt at preventing the b pillar caving in during a roll over?
Fitted a rollbar and they're scrubbing, want to know if i can just remove them and that's that!
have a really good look at what they are attached to.....a REALLY good look. then you will see what they are for.........in case of an accident.
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 10:12 am |
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to follow that, not that im suggesting its a good idea - but could you remove the support and replace it with another (say 5mm x 30mm flat bar) that does tie to the roll bar?
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Glavas
Joined: Thu May 06, 2010 2:13 pm Posts: 322 Location: Adelaide
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Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 12:24 pm |
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so it braces the belt mount and holds it in position. I don't see how a hollow bar mounted via a screw to the tub will do much.
Can this be replaced with a flat bar? or a bar with a a thicker wall but smaller diameter?
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ZookiMonsta
Joined: Sun Aug 23, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1625 Location: Jimboomba
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Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 12:51 pm |
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Why not just weld a tab off the roll bar that will bolt between the seat belt and the piller? Tieing everything in together.
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Glavas
Joined: Thu May 06, 2010 2:13 pm Posts: 322 Location: Adelaide
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Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 1:01 pm |
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ZookiMonsta wrote: Why not just weld a tab off the roll bar that will bolt between the seat belt and the piller? Tieing everything in together.
Because it will look crap lol. I'm just geting sick to death of the bar's rubbing on my rollbar.
Lazy way would be just to weld those bars to the rollbar. I want to to be neat though...
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ZookiMonsta
Joined: Sun Aug 23, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1625 Location: Jimboomba
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Glavas wrote: ZookiMonsta wrote: Why not just weld a tab off the roll bar that will bolt between the seat belt and the piller? Tieing everything in together. Because it will look crap lol. I'm just geting sick to death of the bar's rubbing on my rollbar. Lazy way would be just to weld those bars to the rollbar. I want to to be neat though... Honetly? 
If you welded a tabe 30mm long out of 6/7mm plate onto the B pilla of the cage at the same height as the seat belt, you could solve both problems. Just my 2cents.
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
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Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 10:48 pm |
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Do what ya like but its your fault if something goes wrong and someone gets badly hurt in an accident. Just leave it where it is and work your bars around it.
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atari4x4
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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 11:08 pm |
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Just make some up out of 5mm flat bar or something similar.
So you still coming to beachport?
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2stroker
Joined: Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2689 Location: North Brisbane
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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 12:50 am |
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ZookiMonsta wrote: Why not just weld a tab off the roll bar that will bolt between the seat belt and the piller? Tieing everything in together.
No it wont look crap it will look good if done properly, it is what most of us do. I don't know what this is out of but it will give you an idea of what we are talking about. Usually we just use flat plate taperinf from around 80mm at the cage down to 50mm at the seat belt mount, you can hole saw a couple of holes in it to make it look sporty if you like.
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matty87
Joined: Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 794 Location: the wild west
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Glavas wrote: so it braces the belt mount and holds it in position. I don't see how a hollow bar mounted via a screw to the tub will do much.
Can this be replaced with a flat bar? or a bar with a a thicker wall but smaller diameter?
just because it is small doesn't mean it wont do what it was intended to do.
I will agree a lot of the time that engineers are a pain in the arse but they do know stuff and small doesn't necessarily mean weak
and big as fuck doesn't always mean strong
however you could replace it with something of equal strength but a different shape
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Glavas
Joined: Thu May 06, 2010 2:13 pm Posts: 322 Location: Adelaide
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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:17 am |
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Thanks for the picture!
Yes I'm still coming gus, might meet yous there friday night though. Had no luck sourcing a spare tyre annoyingly so might buy a new one.
7 days a week of work sucks, had no time to fix anything 
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atari4x4
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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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what size spare are you after, 30x9.5?
we'll be on channel 29, the oz wide AZ channel
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Glavas
Joined: Thu May 06, 2010 2:13 pm Posts: 322 Location: Adelaide
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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:21 am |
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I haven't received the UHF I ordered yet I doubt it'll come in before I leave.
And yeah, 30x9.5.
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