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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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Hey all
have had a recurring steering problem where it wouldnt return to center on cornering, but only the last 1/4 or so of a turn... front wheel bearings were a little loose, which helped but didnt remove the problem.
I've since undone the steering dampener (stock one) and its driving way better now - no issues at all. The dampener is incredibly hard to compress but easy to open up so i'd say thats a fair sign its shagged.
Which brings me to the question: do i really need the dampener? i hit a few kurbs in my testing and didnt notice any more kick-back from the wheel than normal? is there something im missing? lol
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Last edited by alien on Sat Oct 23, 2010 2:45 am, edited 1 time in total.
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89_tintop

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Joined: Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3159 Location: gold coast
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 Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 2:44 am |
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I ran my sierra without one for a while and really did not notice any difference.
So IMO yup don't need to run one
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Damo

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Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4661 Location: Brisbane
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Im running without one and every now and then you'll hit something that sets up an oscillation. Given the choice I would run one.
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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 Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 2:53 am |
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yeah might order one monday and just run without till it arrives.
tell you what though - running without makes the steering way lighter =P
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Highway-Star
Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4109 Location: Ipswich
Vehicle: LJ80V-II (a proper Stockman)
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alien wrote: Hey all
have had a recurring steering problem where it wouldnt return to center on cornering, but only the last 1/4 or so of a turn... front wheel bearings were a little loose, which helped but didnt remove the problem.
I've since undone the steering dampener (stock one) and its driving way better now - no issues at all. The dampener is incredibly hard to compress but easy to open up so i'd say thats a fair sign its shagged.
Which brings me to the question: do i really need the dampener? i hit a few kurbs in my testing and didnt notice any more kick-back from the wheel than normal? is there something im missing? lol
Not returning to centre is castor, I have castor wedges in my SJ and it self centres rather agressively... I like it
IMO Steering damper should be there, its part of design of the front suspension and steering.
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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Coily's never had one. No brackets or anything.
I dont run one either, but i have vit ps.
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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highway-star - its returning to center awesomely now, enough so that if i let go of the wheel half way round a corner it straigtens up almost instantly and points me 45degrees straight off the road =P
anyone bought a new standard one before? how easy are they to compress and expand? my busted one is about 2-3kg to expand and about 15-20kg to compress with a nice rubber squealing sound on compression (just guessing).
just went for a long drive - 110km/hr and parking, reversing etc in carparks and its spot on now, handling feels so much better and i can feel the road much better through the wheel.
I'm hoping a standard dampener wont rob me of that feel.
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
Vehicle: suzuki
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BlueSuzy wrote: Coily's never had one. No brackets or anything.
I dont run one either, but i have vit ps.
i run one, had the mount welded on.. stoped my head shake
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
Vehicle: 03 Jimny
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I had a busted damper and it use to rip the steering wheel straight out of my hands when i hit shit. Neally come close to breaking my wrist a couplee of times. So i think it would be best to run one imo. I just ordered a stock (gabriel) damper. About $55. It fixed every thing 
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whincup

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Joined: Sat Apr 17, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 1588 Location: Gracemere, QLD
Vehicle: '94 suzuki maruti
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alien wrote: I'm hoping a standard dampener wont rob me of that feel.
i just had a new one put on and i noticed a HUGE difference, although i had the front wheel bearings replaced and one was completely shagged, so the difference could have been that. IMO you wont notice a difference on-road between it being there, but offroad i think it will make a noticeable difference...
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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http://www.lowrangeoffroad.com/suzuki/s ... -kits.html
I want one O these..
Like Mr Blue I'm not running one, vit P/s, but I can feel the start of the wobble when I hit bump's, so going to get one O them..
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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steak_knife wrote: http://www.lowrangeoffroad.com/suzuki/samurai/steering/steering-stabilizer-kit-for-cross-over-steering-kits.html I want one O these.. Like Mr Blue I'm not running one, vit P/s, but I can feel the start of the wobble when I hit bump's, so going to get one O them..
These are a good thing, dont fit NT though
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 5:41 am |
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 I got a Mig... 
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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by NT I mean NT diff, not wide enough 
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Sully's fine then..
I got your meaning as soon as I clicked " Submit" 
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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
Vehicle: MY2019 Jimny
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 Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 6:11 am |
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Aron, I ripped mine off a few years ago wheeling at zigzag - It was so good afterwards that I never refitted it.
Unnecessary IMO if your steering is set up right.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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X2.
Don't bother replacing it IMHO.
PS they have 50/50 valving - should be no harder to compress or expand.
I've built a heap of cars without them.
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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 Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 7:35 am |
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haha ok i'll leave it off until i have a chance to try it offroad... if i dont like it offroad ill chuck one back on, if i cant tell the difference i'll leave it off =)
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ajsr

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Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 3712 Location: melb
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alex

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Joined: Sat Aug 16, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2151 Location: Brissy
Vehicle: Nissan
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ajsr wrote: Mine doesnt run one
x2
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Moph

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Joined: Sat May 19, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 2535 Location: Perth
Vehicle: 93 Sierra
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 Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 12:28 pm |
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Mine has one there for looks ... its completely buggered and can be pushed in/out really quickly with little force. Doesn't seem to be a problem. Have held out on replacing it because all the aftermarket ones I've seen are RTC which I don't need, and haven't chased down an original.
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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 Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 1:12 pm |
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