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coneykid
Joined: Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 388 Location: bundy
Vehicle: suzuki sierra coily
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I have recently turbo'd my sierra. I've done full rebuild kit, minus pistons. New head, ect. While it wasn't turbo'd it didnt smoke under de-acceleration. Now every now and again it will. Really white smoke. I'm now on the hunt to find out why. I've removed the head because I had a coolant leak at the front of the head. I looked at the gasket and there is no tracking if oil. I checked my valve guide seals and the springs still there. What the he'll could it be.??. Has anyone ever come along this. Could it be coolent leaking into N1 pot??
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dm90
Joined: Sun Nov 29, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4349 Location: Perth
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xedent

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Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 895 Location: Sunshine Coast, QLD
Vehicle: LWB Maruthi on WT Diffs!
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What condition is the turbo you used in how are the seals in it ?
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ajsr

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Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 3712 Location: melb
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turbo oil seals shot?
have you checked the float on the shaft.
is your turbo oil drain clear flowing?
what boost pressure are you running ?
where is you rocker cover breather plumbed into?
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coneykid
Joined: Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 388 Location: bundy
Vehicle: suzuki sierra coily
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ajsr wrote: turbo oil seals shot? have you checked the float on the shaft. is your turbo oil drain clear flowing? what boost pressure are you running ? where is you rocker cover breather plumbed into?
This is what is wierd!
Turbo compressor side is good. I haven't checked exhaust. Shaft end play and float is very good. I'm running 6, 7 psi. And I have a 16mm oil return line. There is not one drop of oil in the intake plumbing. And I'm using a catch can on my breather. But I do have a blow of valve that's not plumbed back in. Hell it has me beat. I do have a fare bit of blow by for a new engine though. But all was ok till I turbo'd.!!
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coneykid
Joined: Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 388 Location: bundy
Vehicle: suzuki sierra coily
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dm90 wrote:
Hell, I not smoking that bad yet
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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do a compression test.
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coneykid
Joined: Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 388 Location: bundy
Vehicle: suzuki sierra coily
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want33s

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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8134 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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Combusted Glycol will make white smoke.
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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coneykid
Joined: Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 388 Location: bundy
Vehicle: suzuki sierra coily
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royce wrote: using brake fluid?
what the???
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coneykid
Joined: Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 388 Location: bundy
Vehicle: suzuki sierra coily
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want33s wrote: Combusted Glycol will make white smoke.
yeah i thought that. I have a coolent leak at the front of the head so there is prob no reson i dont have one in..
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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coneykid wrote: royce wrote: using brake fluid? what the???
Sucking it out of the booster..
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coneykid
Joined: Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 388 Location: bundy
Vehicle: suzuki sierra coily
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 Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 7:41 am |
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Ahh. Na. I had a better look and piston 1 alot cleaner. I'd say coolant but to make sure I'll drop out the pistons. Good fun!!!!
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coneykid
Joined: Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 388 Location: bundy
Vehicle: suzuki sierra coily
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Ok. This is very frustrating. I have removed my pistons. No cracks. Checked my head. All good. Check turbo. All ok. What the he'll is the problem..... The 2nd ring has a step in it. Does anyone remember Wat way the lip faces? That's all left.!.!.
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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coneykid wrote: Ok. This is very frustrating. I have removed my pistons. No cracks. Checked my head. All good. Check turbo. All ok. What the he'll is the problem..... The 2nd ring has a step in it. Does anyone remember Wat way the lip faces? That's all left.!.!.
any I've ever seen is up..
once back together run it with the pvc hose to the tappet cover disconnected, could just be pressurizing the crank case..
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coneykid
Joined: Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 388 Location: bundy
Vehicle: suzuki sierra coily
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 Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 8:50 am |
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Up hey! Mine are down. So step facing down. I rebuilt a 12ht and 5L the other day and they were all domn. But they are diesel.
Were would I find out got sure??
I have a. Catch can and I can feel the blow buy so crank case presure should be good!
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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I keep the packet's the ring's came in when building eng's, just for lil thing's like this, do you still have em??
What brand?? ring's..
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joeblow
Joined: Sat May 10, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 3273 Location: melbourne
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all that lovely turbo heat and power (and awesome heat dispersing manifold) expanding the block 
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coneykid
Joined: Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 388 Location: bundy
Vehicle: suzuki sierra coily
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joeblow wrote: all that lovely turbo heat and power (and awesome heat dispersing manifold) expanding the block 
Joe not being rude but it's a bloody drover, I don't have thounds to spend on my car but i have made many tuned length manifolds. Any way I am a bit imbarased but it's done, I rushed it!!! Any way you think that could happen?? I do have a bit cleaner front piston and vavle's. I just wish I could of seen a deffinet thing wrong!! Ahh..
Rebuild I think is ACL
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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ACL's are marked with a dot, dot to the top..
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coneykid
Joined: Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 388 Location: bundy
Vehicle: suzuki sierra coily
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 Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:43 am |
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Sweet. I'll remove one tommorow. Thanks.
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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joeblow wrote: all that lovely turbo heat and power (and awesome heat dispersing manifold) expanding the block 
Alloy expands more than steel, assuming the block isnt filled with water that gets pumped to a radiator to keep its temperature stable
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coneykid
Joined: Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 388 Location: bundy
Vehicle: suzuki sierra coily
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 Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:51 am |
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All my exhaust temps and intake temps and water temps were checked and ok while on DYNO.
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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can you get teh head vacuum tested or the guides checked?
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coneykid
Joined: Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 388 Location: bundy
Vehicle: suzuki sierra coily
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Yeah I might. Sounds like a good idea
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11_evl
Joined: Tue Apr 10, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 846 Location: logan reserve, Brisb
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General rule I use for rings is
Think of the groves are a penis-
If the groove is IN its UP
If the groove is OUT its DOWN 
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zuk85
Joined: Sun Jul 05, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 656 Location: Sunshine coast
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[quote="coneykid"]I have recently turbo'd my sierra. I've done full rebuild kit, minus pistons. New head, ect. While it wasn't turbo'd it didnt smoke under de-acceleration. Now every now and again it will. Really white smoke. I'm now on the hunt to find out why. I've removed the head because I had a coolant leak at the front of the head. I looked at the gasket and there is no tracking if oil. I checked my valve guide seals and the springs still there. What the he'll could it be.??. Has anyone ever come along this. Could it be coolant leaking into N1 pot??[/quote]
you said it your self. also when u said the N1pot was cleaner.
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