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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:31 am |
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Been hearing a bit about this lately.
Is it worthwhile, cheaper, better or whatever?
I have to do something with front axles soon,
so may as well look into that while at it.
not found much info locally, time to search wider.
Any links, ideas or opinions welcome.
cheers all
christover
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ajsr

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Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 3712 Location: melb
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speak to joeblow chris,I was looking a some interesting sierra cv's he was doing out of datsun720 stuff, he may be able to help you
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:35 am |
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ajsr wrote: speak to joeblow chris,I was looking a some interesting sierra cv's he was doing out of datsun720 stuff, he may be able to help you
Thats a good start thanks
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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unless you are running transfer gears and big tyres its not really worth it as it adds a lot of camber and castor to the front which is useless on a daily driver
somebody either needs to make shorter Toyota driveshafts for it or machine sierra cromo cv's to seal in a vitara hub
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:45 am |
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Actualy really just looking at options to shorten the driver side axle length,
for a better fit to my stub axle conversion.
Passenger side axle fits ok, but with not much room for movement.
So best keep looking.
Theres no doubt a shorter axle that fits stock cv 's somewhere in the world.
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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 Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:55 am |
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cant you just get someone like joeblow to shorten it for you?
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:59 am |
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alien wrote: cant you just get someone like joeblow to shorten it for you?
Yes that is a choice.
I could also go to same blokes I used for the stub axle.
Or maybe I just over worrying 
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:46 am |
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http://www.zukiworld.com/month_120102/f ... endmod.htm
I could easily do this type of " widening mod "but to a much lesser extent, and just use stock passenger side on drivers side
They tell you how to make a stubby, too.
Instead of an inch/25mm needed for the yota cv conversion, I could get away with 5mm to give stock vit cv a bit of breathing room.
Already tried moving entire axle housing over, but no go.
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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thats the mod that changes your camber and castor, as you move that point out you are moving the balljoint out (obviously to make it wider) that increases camber and also moving just one mount moves the balljoint forward, increasing the castor, only doing it to one side would also make it pull to one side dramatically
are you sure you need the room? ive not heard of anyone having trouble with them hitting before (have seen the Toyota ones bust off their mounting bolts because the widening mod wasnt wide enough though)
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inbits
Joined: Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:30 am Posts: 600 Location: qld
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What about this on a wide track vitara does it still need widening?
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inbits
Joined: Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:30 am Posts: 600 Location: qld
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What about this on a wide track vitara does it still need widening?
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:10 am |
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No not sure if I need more room yet,
will take a closer look before doing anything drastic.
Would only be doing 5mm and would do both sides.
I do have camber adjustment bolts.
But will also look into other options first.
Doing my camber adjustment gave me a few mm extra today.
It was way out due to me altering front height and travel.
Steers better now, too.
So I( will drop the 3 bolts and see if I got enough play to get axle out easily.
Before camber adjust, i had to push top of strut reall hard to get it back into its holes, which pushed against diff/axle housing quite harshly.
May be ok now, look again soon
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
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inbits wrote: What about this on a wide track vitara does it still need widening?
I suppose it depends on how much wider they are, and how they actually get them wider. In other word I have no idea, sorry 
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got_bar_work
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 8:30 pm Posts: 2214 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SQ625
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how have u done the stub axel can u make it shorter to get the room
are u using countersunk bolts for the bracket and flange or the orriginal ones
ps
i have the widening mod on mine and the car drives fine
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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got_bar_work wrote: how have u done the stub axel can u make it shorter to get the room are u using countersunk bolts for the bracket and flange or the orriginal ones ps i have the widening mod on mine and the car drives fine
Stub is as short as possible, made at minimum length that will allow a proper weld, and still fit the steel seal protecter ring thing.
Bolts in cv housing are flatter heads.
Only needed to gring head of lower axle housing bracket
and a bit off the bracket.
I think it will be fine, but like the widening idea,
to fit taller skinnier tyres, and still keep track width, in the future.
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