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JrZook
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Well I think my old leaf packs in the sierra have just about had it. Just wondering if anyone knows who has the longest off the shelf rear leaf (mains) for roughly a 2inch lifted pack.
EFS?
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shep
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the longest i have seen are calmini, however they are 4" lift.
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BlueSuzy

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Kings are longer also. But stiff.
Ome are longer. Alot of people rate them on here.
You dont want the longest, as some i have seen fold the shackle onto the chassis. Not good, unless you want to move the hanger.
I run corolla's 
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shep
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BlueSuzy wrote: Kings are longer also. But stiff.
You dont want the longest, as some i have seen fold the shackle onto the chassis. Not good, unless you want to move the hanger.
or use longer shackles.
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BlueSuzy

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shep wrote: BlueSuzy wrote: Kings are longer also. But stiff.
You dont want the longest, as some i have seen fold the shackle onto the chassis. Not good, unless you want to move the hanger. or use longer shackles.
Yes 
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5ierra
Joined: Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 1645 Location: Ipswich
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I run kings and think they are fantastic, great flex
My understanding is EFS are the longest...Highway star and Tanshi both run these if I remember correctly and they run them with one leaf removed (dont quote me on this  )
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7717 Location: Brisbane
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Only till i can be bothered fitting my CJ jeep ones 
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5ierra
Joined: Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 1645 Location: Ipswich
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If you stopped for 5min on the fiddy you might have time... poor jenna, sooooo neglected
(no wonder she has daddy issues)
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Highway-Star
Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4109 Location: Ipswich
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5ierra wrote: I run kings and think they are fantastic, great flex  My understanding is EFS are the longest...Highway star and Tanshi both run these if I remember correctly and they run them with one leaf removed (dont quote me on this  )
Yes I pulled the OME medium rears out my Sierra and replaced them with EFS light 2" rears (one leaf removed). The EFS were about 15mm (from memory) longer than the OME which are longer than stock to start with. The EFS are notably stiffer and taller. The OME's moved the rear diff back, the EFS don't appear to. The OME's turned into spaghetti everytime I put my foot down, the EFS don't.
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
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Highway-Star wrote: Yes I pulled the OME medium rears out my Sierra and replaced them with EFS light 2" rears (one leaf removed). The EFS were about 15mm (from memory) longer than the OME which are longer than stock to start with. The EFS are notably stiffer and taller. The OME's moved the rear diff back, the EFS don't appear to. The OME's turned into spaghetti everytime I put my foot down, the EFS don't.
Cool this is the kinda tech im looking for. So overall how many leafs are you running in the pack now? Are they the EFS 50mm or 65mm comfort springs?
Dan
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Highway-Star
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JrZook wrote: Highway-Star wrote: Yes I pulled the OME medium rears out my Sierra and replaced them with EFS light 2" rears (one leaf removed). The EFS were about 15mm (from memory) longer than the OME which are longer than stock to start with. The EFS are notably stiffer and taller. The OME's moved the rear diff back, the EFS don't appear to. The OME's turned into spaghetti everytime I put my foot down, the EFS don't.
Cool this is the kinda tech im looking for. So overall how many leafs are you running in the pack now? Are they the EFS 50mm or 65mm comfort springs? Dan
3 curved leaves, 1 load leaf. They had 4 curved leaves and 1 load leaf when I bought them. Was the shortest curved one I removed. They are 50mm lifted "light duty" with the comfort "slip pad things". Although they are supposed to be 50mm lifted, they gave more lift when I first put them in. They would probably be down to 50mm lifted now if I took the longer shackles out. Had them in about 6 months.
Although I haven't had any axle wrap issues since putting these in, Tanshi's father axle wrapped the same springs in his; though he took the load leaf out, not the curved leaf. He is running a G13BB auto with 4.1 transfer gears, compared to my G16 manual with 4.9 gears (we mistakenly thouht the auto would be nice on springs  ).
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
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i had lovells 2" springs before going SPOA, they were pretty long. never measured them though.
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JrZook
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steak_knife wrote: :P See Jr??? King king king!! can i have your old rear's?? 
Kings hey? Wonder if the are the same or longer than the EFS leafs? Yea you could possibly have my old leafs when I get my junk together. Got any spare rear mains laying around? 
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steak_knife

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JrZook wrote: steak_knife wrote: :P See Jr??? King king king!! can i have your old rear's??  Kings hey? Wonder if the are the same or longer than the EFS leafs? Yea you could possibly have my old leafs when I get my junk together. Got any spare rear mains laying around? 
 Twisted??? 
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819FKA
Joined: Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 192 Location: Brisbane Northside
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EFS all the way, also just to let u kno, there are 2 types of EFS 50mm lifted leaves, they use the same P/No but a different abreviation on the end, the constant 1's which give u 50mm lift and handle more weight and the comfort 1's give u 65mm of lift but less load carrying, i have spoken to EFS and confirmed all this as i had a arguement with the suspension shop in regards to this, they told me that 65mm lifted leaves didnt exist in the EFS range, they were wrong lmao!!! ill let u know how they go in the front of mine with the RUF when i put them in this weekend and ill post up photos of my rig in my build thread
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JrZook
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K bringing some descent tech measured from center to center across the main rear leaf we have:
OME rears 40mm lift: 1007mm
EFS rears 65mm comfort: 1037mm
Anyone else want to add?
Dan
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3cyl
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Ummm could you include where they put the axle Dan? Think I'm goin to need to do something with springs now that "The Springs" bent my rear main leaf.
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Fatzook

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Are these measurement of NEW springs, with complete spring packs (as sold by manufacturer) not having ever been fitted to a vehcile?
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JrZook
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3cyl wrote: Ummm could you include where they put the axle Dan? Think I'm goin to need to do something with springs now that "The Springs" bent my rear main leaf.
Ah yea forgot bout that! Ill try and get some more measurements.
I would like to know hoe long the kings are *stekky*
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JrZook
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Fatzook wrote: Are these measurement of NEW springs, with complete spring packs (as sold by manufacturer) not having ever been fitted to a vehcile?
These are on the vehicle and not new. This measurement is taken along the curve of the main so it is the total length of the main (will be the same loaded or unloaded). Got any springs to add?
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Junior_91
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TG rear mains are the longest i have found.
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Fatzook

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JrZook wrote: Fatzook wrote: Are these measurement of NEW springs, with complete spring packs (as sold by manufacturer) not having ever been fitted to a vehcile? These are on the vehicle and not new. This measurement is taken along the curve of the main so it is the total length of the main (will be the same loaded or unloaded). Got any springs to add?
None that I know the brand of. Besides, I don't own any leaf sprung zooks anymore 
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JrZook
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Junior_91 wrote: TG rear mains are the longest i have found.
TG? Got a measurement to throw up?
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JrZook wrote: Junior_91 wrote: TG rear mains are the longest i have found. TG? Got a measurement to throw up?
I can go grab one if you want.
Oh and Trail Gear.
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JrZook
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Junior_91 wrote: JrZook wrote: Junior_91 wrote: TG rear mains are the longest i have found. TG? Got a measurement to throw up? I can go grab one if you want. Oh and Trail Gear.
That would be sweet and also a measurement from the center of the fixed hanger side along the main to the center bolt would be nice to know.
Dan
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MrRocky
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i got calmini 5" they are super long, you cant use them with standard shackles as they flex backward and sit on the chassis rail
iam planning to replace the top leaf on my efs with the top from the calmini laefpack to gain a bit more flex with my 3/4 elliptical.
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My Lovells rears are 1050mm.
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MrRocky
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just measured 2 sets i have here
efs 2" lifted rears * 905mm from center of spring eye to eye
calmini 5" rears * 940mm from center of spring eye to eye
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