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Proxy

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Joined: Wed Sep 22, 2010 3:06 am Posts: 248 Location: Giralang, ACT
Vehicle: 1995 Suzuki Vitara JX LWB G16B
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hi there need to borrow a clutch aligning tool for the sierra all the ones i've come across from mates or family to borrow have been too large to fit into the back of the engine
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Bruce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4003 Location: Brisbane
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Do it by eye Mate. Has worked every time Royce has done mine.
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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I normally line em up by eye..
If you have an ole g/box laying round you can pull the input shaft out & use that....
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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Bruce wrote: Do it by eye Mate. Has worked every time Royce has done mine.
Yeah but with his short legs he's at the perfect height to do it. 
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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Bruce wrote: Do it by eye Mate. Has worked every time Royce has done mine.

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Proxy

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Joined: Wed Sep 22, 2010 3:06 am Posts: 248 Location: Giralang, ACT
Vehicle: 1995 Suzuki Vitara JX LWB G16B
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 Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 6:15 am |
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good point i could give it a try, i've never done a manual before, i guess just try and make it central?
edit: yeah wouldn't mind a spare input shaft
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Bruce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4003 Location: Brisbane
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Fatzook wrote: Bruce wrote: Do it by eye Mate. Has worked every time Royce has done mine. Yeah but with his short legs he's at the perfect height to do it. 
Bwhahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Love it Peter.
He is a little hobbit 
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pyrohamish
Joined: Wed May 27, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 331 Location: Fremantle, WA
Vehicle: '85 Sierra LWB Ute, Lkd 33's
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I used a combo of sockets and screwdrivers from memory
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Proxy

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Joined: Wed Sep 22, 2010 3:06 am Posts: 248 Location: Giralang, ACT
Vehicle: 1995 Suzuki Vitara JX LWB G16B
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 Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 6:43 am |
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pyrohamish wrote: I used a combo of sockets and screwdrivers from memory
how did this work?
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 7:06 am |
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youve only got to get it in the middle, look down the hole with one eye and first look at the splines, if they look even your eye is in the middle, then look at the machining of the spigot hole, if the rings are central to the splines your in
If you were in Redcliffe QLD i'd pop over and do it for you 
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Proxy

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Joined: Wed Sep 22, 2010 3:06 am Posts: 248 Location: Giralang, ACT
Vehicle: 1995 Suzuki Vitara JX LWB G16B
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 Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:36 am |
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royce wrote: youve only got to get it in the middle, look down the hole with one eye and first look at the splines, if they look even your eye is in the middle, then look at the machining of the spigot hole, if the rings are central to the splines your in If you were in Redcliffe QLD i'd pop over and do it for you 
well this redcliffe's right near the domestic airport, so you can still pop over, in a few hours or more lol
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Proxy

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Joined: Wed Sep 22, 2010 3:06 am Posts: 248 Location: Giralang, ACT
Vehicle: 1995 Suzuki Vitara JX LWB G16B
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dang just missed supercheap by 30 minutes, looks like that's the ticket will have to grab one tomorrow
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BJPK
Joined: Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 786 Location: perth
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dude just do it by eye and feel. line the hole up in the middle. then feel the gaps around the pressure plate should be even on all sides. theres three maybe four spots you can check on the pressure plate. you should be able to feel that the clutch disk is equal at all gaps. hope this makes sense. it does to me 
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Trojan
Joined: Mon May 26, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 390
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If you really must use an allignment tool, just use a bolt, round bar, or something round that's the size of the spigot bearing. Then just wrap tape around it in the right spot to the thickness of the spline of the clutch plate.
Instant allignment tool.
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Proxy

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Joined: Wed Sep 22, 2010 3:06 am Posts: 248 Location: Giralang, ACT
Vehicle: 1995 Suzuki Vitara JX LWB G16B
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Trojan wrote: If you really must use an allignment tool, just use a bolt, round bar, or something round that's the size of the spigot bearing. Then just wrap tape around it in the right spot to the thickness of the spline of the clutch plate.
Instant allignment tool.
i just saw this same idea on a car show, might try that first then
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Proxy

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Joined: Wed Sep 22, 2010 3:06 am Posts: 248 Location: Giralang, ACT
Vehicle: 1995 Suzuki Vitara JX LWB G16B
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tried a few of the home remedy's but failed, ended up with the supercheap item, gotta re hire a crane before i can get the engine in again, so we shall see if it works, when i can afford the crane again,
cheers for all the help guys
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2stroker
Joined: Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2689 Location: North Brisbane
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Ha ha...this thread brings back memories, I remember about 25years ago this old fella used to live in that strange old house that is straight ahead of you when you come to the top of Coopers Camp Road Bardon (up from your old place Steaky ) he used to work on cars at that old house, his name was Barry. Anyway I was there one day and he had a square cake tin with all these clutch aligning tools for different cars, he had turned them down out of hardwood on this little old wood lathe and they had the car written on them with a niko pen.
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Proxy

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Joined: Wed Sep 22, 2010 3:06 am Posts: 248 Location: Giralang, ACT
Vehicle: 1995 Suzuki Vitara JX LWB G16B
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 Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 12:23 am |
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well this clutch aligning tool from supercheap is shit, i've tried like 5 times now and still doesn't work, i followed both sets of instructions even, i tried the other listed methods they don't work either, i've had to hire a second crane to try this again, and i'm just running out of money and need my car back,
can anyone tell me a SURE FIRE way to get this bloody engine to my gearbox, this is beyond frustrating, it shouldn't be this hard especially when i bothered to buy the bloody tool for the job
*sigh*
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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royce wrote: youve only got to get it in the middle, look down the hole with one eye and first look at the splines, if they look even your eye is in the middle, then look at the machining of the spigot hole, if the rings are central to the splines your in If you were in Redcliffe QLD i'd pop over and do it for you 
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Proxy

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Joined: Wed Sep 22, 2010 3:06 am Posts: 248 Location: Giralang, ACT
Vehicle: 1995 Suzuki Vitara JX LWB G16B
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yeah i've tried that, i dunno if i just have bad judgement or something, i even tried to match the gap around the edges,
am i doing something wrong when it meets the gearbox? i get the two studs lined in the holes on the block, but then it just gets stuck in the middle, i assume it's the clutch plate?
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 12:44 am |
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they dont jsut slide together, you need to sometimes turn the motor a bit to line the slines up (gearbox in gear) and give it a good shove
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7717 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 12:47 am |
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you could also put the gear box in gear and slide the jack shaft in the back. turn it to help the splines mesh??
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Proxy

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Joined: Wed Sep 22, 2010 3:06 am Posts: 248 Location: Giralang, ACT
Vehicle: 1995 Suzuki Vitara JX LWB G16B
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 Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 12:54 am |
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i've put the gearbox in neutral hoping the shaft would turn itself
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7717 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 12:58 am |
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I have had to either twist the gearbox or turn the shaft to line them up before. i doubt it would turn itself
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Proxy

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Joined: Wed Sep 22, 2010 3:06 am Posts: 248 Location: Giralang, ACT
Vehicle: 1995 Suzuki Vitara JX LWB G16B
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ok i'll try that too
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Scrawny

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Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
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Some boxes can take a lot of wrestling to get in. I found it easier to have the gearbox floating, mount the engine properly, then get under and shove the box back on. Try the box in gear with the shaft in and turn till you feel it engage in the spline. Then just push and wiggle.
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Thanh
Joined: Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 79 Location: Adelaide
Vehicle: LWB Vitara
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 Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 3:07 am |
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you can get vehicle specific aligning tools for next to nothing. I got mine for my sierra for like $8. Just a plastic cheapie but it works fine. The gearbox still takes a while to line up properly though.
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xedent

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Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 895 Location: Sunshine Coast, QLD
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Make sure the clutch you got is the right spline number aswell
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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2stroker wrote: Ha ha...this thread brings back memories, I remember about 25years ago this old fella used to live in that strange old house that is straight ahead of you when you come to the top of Coopers Camp Road Bardon (up from your old place Steaky ) he used to work on cars at that old house, his name was Barry. Anyway I was there one day and he had a square cake tin with all these clutch aligning tools for different cars, he had turned them down out of hardwood on this little old wood lathe and they had the car written on them with a niko pen.
 I remember him!!!
He used to put shake proof washer's on the vale's to "spin" the air as it goes into the head, I think he invented the hyclone.. 
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