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2stroker
Joined: Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2689 Location: North Brisbane
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 Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:01 am |
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Look what I found, yanks are making manifolds to take a 40mm side draft bike carbie, so you can solve all your sierra carbie problems and be trouble free on all angles like a 1 litre or LJ

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Kermy87
Joined: Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:13 am Posts: 348 Location: Hervey bay QLD
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 Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:09 am |
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I used to run a 2.6l landrover su carbie bolted to a CT12 Toyota turbo on my old 1.3l and it worked brilliant never missed a beat up hills bouncing round or nothin, it was a little rich on fuel only getting 45kms out of a tank 4x4in at about 7500rpm most of the time, maybe that's y I blew so many heads, but ya get that
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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 Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:26 am |
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Kermy87 wrote: 45kms out of a tank 
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Kermy87
Joined: Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:13 am Posts: 348 Location: Hervey bay QLD
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 Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:30 am |
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BlueSuzy wrote: Kermy87 wrote: 45kms out of a tank 
low box flogging the ring out of it, carbie was designed for a 2.6L, she ran very rich
_________________ Sik as drover, 32" mongrels, 4age 20v, 2" sus, 2"
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squizzytaylor
Joined: Sat Sep 26, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 381 Location: Bogged near Morisset
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 Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:34 am |
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Kermy87 wrote: BlueSuzy wrote: Kermy87 wrote: 45kms out of a tank  low box flogging the ring out of it, carbie was designed for a 2.6L, she ran very rich
Should have put a bucket under the exhaust pipe and recycled the unburnt fuel.
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Kermy87
Joined: Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:13 am Posts: 348 Location: Hervey bay QLD
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 Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:39 am |
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squizzytaylor wrote: Kermy87 wrote: BlueSuzy wrote: Kermy87 wrote: 45kms out of a tank  low box flogging the ring out of it, carbie was designed for a 2.6L, she ran very rich Should have put a bucket under the exhaust pipe and recycled the unburnt fuel.
had sum kick arse flames out the tail pipe on the odd occacion if you really got up it
_________________ Sik as drover, 32" mongrels, 4age 20v, 2" sus, 2"
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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 Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:58 am |
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This thread was meant for good tech, Solves carbie problems like efi..
A landrover carb does not fix the problem, bolting it on makes it worse, They are known to be shithouse, then 46ks a tank makes it mega waste of time.
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Che

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Joined: Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2401 Location: Perth
Vehicle: LPG 1.6 Sierra
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 Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 1:27 am |
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^^^ This is an illegal setup on my 1.3 Sierra, I've enquired about this about a year ago before switching to LPG... legality depends on the pollution controls of the 1L engine of which I have no idea.
Check out Zooks Off Road - they have a full Harley Davidson 44mm Screaming Eagle CV carb and conversion kit, that's the guy to go for.
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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 Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 1:28 am |
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che_guitarra wrote: ^^^ This is an illegal setup on my 1.3 Sierra, I've enquired about this about a year ago before switching to LPG... legality depends on the pollution controls of the 1L engine of which I have no idea.
Check out Zooks Off Road - they have a full Harley Davidson 44mm Screaming Eagle CV carb and conversion kit, that's the guy to go for.
There is a great idea  Put a carby off one of the most unreliable 2 wheel vehicles ever created onto your sierra 
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ajsr

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Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 3712 Location: melb
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 Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 1:40 am |
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Fatzook wrote: che_guitarra wrote: ^^^ This is an illegal setup on my 1.3 Sierra, I've enquired about this about a year ago before switching to LPG... legality depends on the pollution controls of the 1L engine of which I have no idea.
Check out Zooks Off Road - they have a full Harley Davidson 44mm Screaming Eagle CV carb and conversion kit, that's the guy to go for. There is a great idea  Put a carby off one of the most unreliable 2 wheel vehicles ever created onto your sierra 
those old stationary engines you see at show are higher tech than harleys and probably make more power and reliably
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Kermy87
Joined: Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:13 am Posts: 348 Location: Hervey bay QLD
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 Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 1:41 am |
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BlueSuzy wrote: This thread was meant for good tech, Solves carbie problems like efi..
A landrover carb does not fix the problem, bolting it on makes it worse, They are known to be shithouse, then 46ks a tank makes it mega waste of time.
no they are not great on fuel, but I never had a problem with relyabiity wise as you read (a 2.6l landrover su carbie bolted to a CT12 Toyota turbo on my old 1.3l and it worked brilliant never missed a beat up hills bouncing round or nothing) so it did fix the common sierra problem lack of fuel during hill climbs but created another with very poor fuel ecconomy,
_________________ Sik as drover, 32" mongrels, 4age 20v, 2" sus, 2"
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Che

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Joined: Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2401 Location: Perth
Vehicle: LPG 1.6 Sierra
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 Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:08 am |
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Late model Harley carbies are the most well sorted and bullet proof thing on the bike. Compared to a HD CV, an Aisin carb simply doesn't measure up in terms of power deilvery, efficiency, reliability, longevity, or self-serviceability.
There's a bunch of kick arse Samurais out there with this setup, i'm yet to hear of anyone who has gone this route be dissappointed. But - I posted a similar find a year ago and pretty much got flamed.
Last edited by Che on Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:10 am, edited 1 time in total.
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
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 Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:09 am |
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Fatzook wrote: che_guitarra wrote: ^^^ This is an illegal setup on my 1.3 Sierra, I've enquired about this about a year ago before switching to LPG... legality depends on the pollution controls of the 1L engine of which I have no idea.
Check out Zooks Off Road - they have a full Harley Davidson 44mm Screaming Eagle CV carb and conversion kit, that's the guy to go for. There is a great idea  Put a carby off one of the most unreliable 2 wheel vehicles ever created onto your sierra 
LOL the bike may be unreliable but you will find that the carb is made by mikuni not harley
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
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 Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:12 am |
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BlueSuzy wrote: This thread was meant for good tech, Solves carbie problems like efi..
A landrover carb does not fix the problem, bolting it on makes it worse, They are known to be shithouse, then 46ks a tank makes it mega waste of time.
Know to be shithouse to those who cant tune or dont know anything about them. They are SU constant velocity carbs and use a vacuum slide and a metering needle. Set up right they run really well and do return descent economy.
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2stroker
Joined: Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2689 Location: North Brisbane
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 Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:23 am |
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45km per tank ????? is that even possible on a 1300, that's like 1 litre per km or over 80 litres per 100KM, 4 tanks of fuel to Caloundra and back, I don't think so.
I just looked a few things up and apparently a Mack prime mover averages 20 litres per 100km at 95KPH on the hiway.
Last edited by 2stroker on Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:47 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Kermy87
Joined: Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:13 am Posts: 348 Location: Hervey bay QLD
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 Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:46 am |
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2stroker wrote: 45km per tank ????? is that even possible on a 1300, that's like 1 litre per km, 4 tanks of fuel to Caloundra and back, I don't think so.
strapped to a turbo revving at very high revs in low box goin nowhere fast it is possible not only does the increased size of the carbie increase fuel consumption but to aid in the process it was bolted direct to a turbo which
increases the vaccume through the su carbie quite considerably sucking even more fuel through, I spent the whole day doing hill climbs at telstra toweres ages ago, I have since retired the turbo set up and moved to efi Because of the high dues consumption, although it was great fun
_________________ Sik as drover, 32" mongrels, 4age 20v, 2" sus, 2"
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Kermy87
Joined: Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:13 am Posts: 348 Location: Hervey bay QLD
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 Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:51 am |
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2stroker wrote: 45km per tank ????? is that even possible on a 1300, that's like 1 litre per km or over 80 litres per 100KM, 4 tanks of fuel to Caloundra and back, I don't think so.
I just looked a few things up and apparently a Mack prime mover averages 20 litres per 100km at 95KPH on the hiway.
I did forget to mention road wise it wasn't too bad only 8ks to the L, only when 4wding it was excessivly thirsty
_________________ Sik as drover, 32" mongrels, 4age 20v, 2" sus, 2"
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
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 Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 3:04 am |
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Kermy87 wrote: 2stroker wrote: 45km per tank ????? is that even possible on a 1300, that's like 1 litre per km, 4 tanks of fuel to Caloundra and back, I don't think so. strapped to a turbo revving at very high revs in low box goin nowhere fast it is possible not only does the increased size of the carbie increase fuel consumption but to aid in the process it was bolted direct to a turbo which increases the vaccume through the su carbie quite considerably sucking even more fuel through, I spent the whole day doing hill climbs at telstra toweres ages ago, I have since retired the turbo set up and moved to efi Because of the high dues consumption, although it was great fun
What AFR was it running at WOT?? Sounds very excessive to me. Even a rover 3.5L v8 (with the twin SU's) mud bogging all day doesnt do no where near as bad as that. Flames out the exhaust? SOunds like it was running sweet as......
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Kermy87
Joined: Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:13 am Posts: 348 Location: Hervey bay QLD
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 Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 3:21 am |
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JrZook wrote: Kermy87 wrote: 2stroker wrote: 45km per tank ????? is that even possible on a 1300, that's like 1 litre per km, 4 tanks of fuel to Caloundra and back, I don't think so. strapped to a turbo revving at very high revs in low box goin nowhere fast it is possible not only does the increased size of the carbie increase fuel consumption but to aid in the process it was bolted direct to a turbo which increases the vaccume through the su carbie quite considerably sucking even more fuel through, I spent the whole day doing hill climbs at telstra toweres ages ago, I have since retired the turbo set up and moved to efi Because of the high dues consumption, although it was great fun What AFR was it running at WOT?? Sounds very excessive to me. Even a rover 3.5L v8 (with the twin SU's) mud bogging all day doesnt do no where near as bad as that. Flames out the exhaust? SOunds like it was running sweet as......
hey I'm not here to beat around the bush or bull shit any body, I tell it as it is, when I open the throttle it chewed juice, alot of it,
_________________ Sik as drover, 32" mongrels, 4age 20v, 2" sus, 2"
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ajsr

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Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 3712 Location: melb
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 Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:48 am |
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Kermy87 wrote: 2stroker wrote: 45km per tank ????? is that even possible on a 1300, that's like 1 litre per km, 4 tanks of fuel to Caloundra and back, I don't think so. strapped to a turbo revving at very high revs in low box goin nowhere fast it is possible not only does the increased size of the carbie increase fuel consumption but to aid in the process it was bolted direct to a turbo which increases the vaccume through the su carbie quite considerably sucking even more fuel through, I spent the whole day doing hill climbs at telstra toweres ages ago, I have since retired the turbo set up and moved to efi Because of the high dues consumption, although it was great fun
Whats that smell?? Opps did I stand in BULLSHIT
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
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 Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:51 am |
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Kermy87 wrote: JrZook wrote: Kermy87 wrote: 2stroker wrote: 45km per tank ????? is that even possible on a 1300, that's like 1 litre per km, 4 tanks of fuel to Caloundra and back, I don't think so. strapped to a turbo revving at very high revs in low box goin nowhere fast it is possible not only does the increased size of the carbie increase fuel consumption but to aid in the process it was bolted direct to a turbo which increases the vaccume through the su carbie quite considerably sucking even more fuel through, I spent the whole day doing hill climbs at telstra toweres ages ago, I have since retired the turbo set up and moved to efi Because of the high dues consumption, although it was great fun What AFR was it running at WOT?? Sounds very excessive to me. Even a rover 3.5L v8 (with the twin SU's) mud bogging all day doesnt do no where near as bad as that. Flames out the exhaust? SOunds like it was running sweet as...... hey I'm not here to beat around the bush or bull shit any body, I tell it as it is, when I open the throttle it chewed juice, alot of it,
Decent question here. What AFR was it running at WOT? Did you get it tuned on the dyno or just winged it?
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Kermy87
Joined: Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:13 am Posts: 348 Location: Hervey bay QLD
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 Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 8:08 pm |
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JrZook wrote: Kermy87 wrote: JrZook wrote: Kermy87 wrote: 2stroker wrote: 45km per tank ????? is that even possible on a 1300, that's like 1 litre per km, 4 tanks of fuel to Caloundra and back, I don't think so. strapped to a turbo revving at very high revs in low box goin nowhere fast it is possible not only does the increased size of the carbie increase fuel consumption but to aid in the process it was bolted direct to a turbo which increases the vaccume through the su carbie quite considerably sucking even more fuel through, I spent the whole day doing hill climbs at telstra toweres ages ago, I have since retired the turbo set up and moved to efi Because of the high dues consumption, although it was great fun What AFR was it running at WOT?? Sounds very excessive to me. Even a rover 3.5L v8 (with the twin SU's) mud bogging all day doesnt do no where near as bad as that. Flames out the exhaust? SOunds like it was running sweet as...... hey I'm not here to beat around the bush or bull shit any body, I tell it as it is, when I open the throttle it chewed juice, alot of it, Decent question here. What AFR was it running at WOT? Did you get it tuned on the dyno or just winged it?
as hervey bay has no decent mechanics,or none that i'm associated with personally I just winged it, tuned the carbie to the best of my ability, As I never had the time or money to spend on it to get it tuned 100% Is the reason I sold the turbo kit to some kid in Perth for $1400 someone elses problem now , I see it's been on eBay 2wice since I sold it.
And afr at wot, was NFI, as I never ran a afr meter
_________________ Sik as drover, 32" mongrels, 4age 20v, 2" sus, 2"
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skyman
Joined: Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:06 pm Posts: 1328 Location: Yakima, wa (us)
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Well, from first hand experience these are awesome kits. The Myside-II and the petroworks CV setup are the go. I don't know if they are legal down there or not though.
Here, they are the system everyone goes to if they can't find, or afford TBI injection from a 1.3 or 1.6. I ran 1.6 injection on my 1.3 for a year until I could get the 1.6 rebuilt.
If it is available, injection seem like it is always the best bet, but when you can't find it, or afford it, these things are great. Good enough that some guys have home brewed some of their own. A local friend of mine has the myside-1 kit and he loves it.
They can also be re-jetted for engine mods like turbo or cams, where the EFI needs to be replaced when you go all out with engine mods.
Quote: I'm yet to hear of anyone who has gone this route be disappointed
Me too, and there;s a lot of guys running them now. 'Course Myron provides phone support to get them running good for guys who have trouble.
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