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uppitt
Joined: Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:15 am Posts: 12 Location: Sydney
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G'day, I have a lifted V6 Vitara. Have always used OME struts in the front, but I've just gone through my 2nd pair which lasted 4 years which I guess is not too bad. I'm interested to hear from others that have an opinion on whether to stick with OME again for a 3rd time or maybe try Dobinsons. Dobinsons are alot cheaper $165 a strut compared to $227 for an OME), but not sure what their quality is like. Anyone used Dobinsons struts ?
Toughdog gas struts were another option, but not for $700 a pair.
Tim
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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I've seen a few dobinsons struts fail early. But no first hand experience sorry
I run Koni's. Pretty dear, but they are performing well so far.
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flatcat_auz

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Joined: Tue Oct 05, 2010 6:06 am Posts: 154 Location: Nth of Syd.
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I run Bilstein Struts and Dobinson's Springs and so far clocked up 55,000kms. Very happy with performance as the Bilsteins where not cheap.
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nissvit
Joined: Sun Apr 06, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 184 Location: Brisbane
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I've had dobinsons once and went back to OME. The dobinsons seized after about 6 months, so couldn't recommend them to anyone.
Up here ironman seems to be the brand that are being pushed at the moment, bought at set recently and when we pulled them out of the packaging one had a damaged shaft ( small rust pitting). I took it back to the sales place and had a new one that arvo, but might be something to check if anyone gets some.
The sales guy reckons he hadn't seen any similiar problems with any other ironman shocks..
as far as how the ironman work, dunno, havn't fitted them yet.
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uppitt
Joined: Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:15 am Posts: 12 Location: Sydney
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are the koni's standard length though? or are they 40mm extended length ?
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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I'm currently running OME & they're nice, but I might end up running koni's or bilstein next depending on lenghts.
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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uppitt wrote: are the koni's standard length though? or are they 40mm extended length ?
30-40mm extended. I am going to do a strut top flip to get the other 10-20mm I need to match my coils.
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uppitt
Joined: Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:15 am Posts: 12 Location: Sydney
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I rang Bilsteins and was told they didn't make a strut for a Vitara, maybe they used to, but not anymore..
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flatcat_auz

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Joined: Tue Oct 05, 2010 6:06 am Posts: 154 Location: Nth of Syd.
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uppitt wrote: I rang Bilsteins and was told they didn't make a strut for a Vitara, maybe they used to, but not anymore..
Ring this bloke:
Chris Bale Automotive 0249597174. Toronto.
http://web1.carparts-cat.com/default.as ... 004&12=100
On this page somewhere there is an english converter.
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uppitt
Joined: Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:15 am Posts: 12 Location: Sydney
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flatcat_auz wrote: uppitt wrote: I rang Bilsteins and was told they didn't make a strut for a Vitara, maybe they used to, but not anymore.. Ring this bloke: Chris Bale Automotive 0249597174. Toronto. http://web1.carparts-cat.com/default.as ... 004&12=100
thanks, waiting for a call back tomorrow.
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MacDaddy

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Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 10453 Location: Perth, Australia
Vehicle: Jeep
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uppitt wrote: G'day, I have a lifted V6 Vitara. Have always used OME struts in the front, but I've just gone through my 2nd pair which lasted 4 years which I guess is not too bad. I'm interested to hear from others that have an opinion on whether to stick with OME again for a 3rd time or maybe try Dobinsons. Dobinsons are alot cheaper $165 a strut compared to $227 for an OME), but not sure what their quality is like. Anyone used Dobinsons struts ?
Toughdog gas struts were another option, but not for $700 a pair.
Tim
I have Ironman Coil springs and shocks, on my 01 GV ( Grand Vitara ), and i am very happy with them !
Ironman do a complete suspension kit for the Vitara, for $840, with free postage on ebay, so that may be another option to consider...
Your Vit has coil springs, so i would go Dobinson, have heard good feedback about them... not a big fan of OME, have heard about to many failures, and claiming on warranty can be a real pain in the ass...
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
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nissvit wrote: I've had dobinsons once and went back to OME. The dobinsons seized after about 6 months, so couldn't recommend them to anyone.
Up here ironman seems to be the brand that are being pushed at the moment, bought at set recently and when we pulled them out of the packaging one had a damaged shaft ( small rust pitting). I took it back to the sales place and had a new one that arvo, but might be something to check if anyone gets some.
The sales guy reckons he hadn't seen any similiar problems with any other ironman shocks..
as far as how the ironman work, dunno, havn't fitted them yet.
The quallity of ironman is a bit hit and miss. I put a 40mm lift in the wifes new GV and within a week one strut was fucked. Their after sales service is awsome as they replaced it without question and even fitted it at their cost. But they didnt send it off to get the front end allignment redone. If you do fit ironman struts get the front end checked asap. Our camber was so far out the adjustable castor bolts are at their maximum and its just within acceptable limits.
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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Built4thrashing wrote: The quallity of ironman is a bit hit and miss. I put a 40mm lift in the wifes new GV and within a week one strut was fucked. Their after sales service is awsome as they replaced it without question and even fitted it at their cost. But they didnt send it off to get the front end allignment redone. If you do fit ironman struts get the front end checked asap. Our camber was so far out the adjustable castor bolts are at their maximum and its just within acceptable limits.
 I've heard that some place before... 
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MacDaddy

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Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 10453 Location: Perth, Australia
Vehicle: Jeep
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Built4thrashing wrote: nissvit wrote: I've had dobinsons once and went back to OME. The dobinsons seized after about 6 months, so couldn't recommend them to anyone.
Up here ironman seems to be the brand that are being pushed at the moment, bought at set recently and when we pulled them out of the packaging one had a damaged shaft ( small rust pitting). I took it back to the sales place and had a new one that arvo, but might be something to check if anyone gets some.
The sales guy reckons he hadn't seen any similiar problems with any other ironman shocks..
as far as how the ironman work, dunno, havn't fitted them yet. The quallity of ironman is a bit hit and miss. I put a 40mm lift in the wifes new GV and within a week one strut was fucked. Their after sales service is awsome as they replaced it without question and even fitted it at their cost. But they didnt send it off to get the front end allignment redone. If you do fit ironman struts get the front end checked asap. Our camber was so far out the adjustable castor bolts are at their maximum and its just within acceptable limits.
Hmmm ok... Yes they do have excellent after sales service, and warranty claims are done very quickly...
With any Suspension lift, not just 2in or bigger, it is a good idea to get camber bolts fitted as well. they are around the $100 mark, and they allow for a much better wheel alignment adjustment, and you wont be at the limits of stock adjustment... 
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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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mate, ill be getting a set of dobinson struts for my swb vit. have a search as i asked the same thing a while back, and as usual it got turned into crap. it seems that no one had run dobinson struts in a vit, or maybe there not speaking up.
they are a 40mm extended strut like the OME.
Mitch
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tombutt
Joined: Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1917 Location: brisbane
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i have dobinsons one failed after it was fitted for 30kms but was replaced with out a worry ive have them in the car now for 10 000ish kms and they seem to be going fine
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trite

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Joined: Tue May 19, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 182 Location: sunshine coast
Vehicle: SUZZI
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i run OME in my vit and its such a nice ride very happy with it....got mine from arb for like $880 for the lot.
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uppitt
Joined: Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:15 am Posts: 12 Location: Sydney
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thanks for the replies. I'm only after the struts, not a full kit, my Vit is already lifted 4" in the rear (probably only 3.5" now) and 2.5" in the front, for many years....been through 2 sets of struts (OME)...and will probably give Dobinsons a go now. The last set of OME only lasted 40,000km which I thought was too short. I have Rancho shocks in the rear, and they simply never break....if only Rancho made struts ! My current OME are not leaking , but the passenger side is just not riding well at all and every bump is a thud..so it seems like it's failed internally.
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
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if you suspension is topping out it can cause prem failure of the struts. Maybe you need to run a strut shaft spacer
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tombutt
Joined: Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1917 Location: brisbane
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would sound like they would be topping out with 2.5 lift in the front and only 40mm longer struts
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