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strutts
Joined: Sat Jan 22, 2011 2:05 am Posts: 57 Location: Melbourne
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Hey guys,
I'm new to this forum and I actually don't have a sierra yet but am looking. I was hoping when I get one to drop a swift GTi motor in it with a 1.6 vitara block and a SC14 supercharger. Does Anyone know somewhere that I can read about this and how difficult it would be for me to do this. Also if you have any other suggestions would b awesome
Thanks guys.
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Damo

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Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4661 Location: Brisbane
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strutts wrote: Hey guys, I'm new to this forum and I actually don't have a sierra yet but am looking. I was hoping when I get one to drop a swift GTi motor in it with a 1.6 vitara block and a SC14 supercharger. Does Anyone know somewhere that I can read about this and how difficult it would be for me to do this. Also if you have any other suggestions would b awesome  Thanks guys.
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Benz
Joined: Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1006 Location: Cervantes WA
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is there any real gain on a 1.6 block with a gti head?
edit.
on second thought... I don't care
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Damo

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Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4661 Location: Brisbane
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Benz2369 wrote: is there any real gain on a 1.6 block with a gti head?
edit. on second thought... I don't care
I dunno really. I've heard that it doesn't work as well as people think, but not having done it myself or seen the results first hand I wouldn't like to comment.
I think losfer might have some experience with it.
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Ben_Sierra

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Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4472 Location: Perth
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A couple of Improved production guys are running GTIs with 1.6 blocks... They work fairly well on a track but I think the power delivery would be totally inappropriate in a Sierra, unless it was to be used for rallying or similar...
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strutts
Joined: Sat Jan 22, 2011 2:05 am Posts: 57 Location: Melbourne
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Honestly. I jst want a torqy/powerful lil 4x4 that will get me anywhere. lol
Jst wanted to know how hard it would be to drop that moter in with a charger lol
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mnemonix

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Joined: Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1409 Location: Newcastle NSW
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Bog stock g16b / mk1 gti head netted me 48kw on the dyno first time round.
Hardly what I'd call a powerhouse...
The low compression ratio (7.8:1) is rediculously low for a N/A car, so forced induction is a valid idea for this engine.
However the weak points in the G16, like con rods/bolts should be addressed first.
If you want a little 4x4 that will get you anywhere, stick with a stock engine or g16b, properly geared, locked front and rear.
Horsepower does not equal offroad capability.
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Ben_Sierra

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Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4472 Location: Perth
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strutts wrote: Honestly. I jst want a torqy/powerful lil 4x4 that will get me anywhere. lol
Jst wanted to know how hard it would be to drop that moter in with a charger lol
Anything with a GTI head is not torquey....
A G16B is the best, but gearing is even better, especially with big tyres...
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skyman
Joined: Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:06 pm Posts: 1328 Location: Yakima, wa (us)
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The 16 valve 1.6 MPFI is a snappy little bastard for a light Sierra. My boy has one in his sidekick, and it flat moves for a Vitara, especially when you get into the 300Rp and up range,
I run the 8 valve 1.6, and three of my buddies have the 16 valve version. Their 16v's really smokes the 8 valve. Considering I am happy with the power of the 8 valve 1.6, that says a lot about the MPFI 16 valve version.
With a good set of extractors, and a decent exhaust I figure a 16v 1.6 is all a guy would need..at least up to a 33 inch tire. I can;t imagine 31's lol.. it would be a screamer.
Some guys turbo them here in the states and get a little more out of them. Stock ECM, and 6-7Lbs of boost, is a good reliable setup. More boost needs a lot more work.
Here's the turbo build up. Did you guys get the j20 2 liter that is an option too.
turbo ya 1.6 16v clicky
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LAY80N
Joined: Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 455 Location: Newcastle NSW
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skyman wrote: The 16 valve 1.6 MPFI is a snappy little bastard for a light Sierra. My boy has one in his sidekick, and it flat moves for a Vitara, especially when you get into the 300Rp and up range, I run the 8 valve 1.6, and three of my buddies have the 16 valve version. Their 16v's really smokes the 8 valve. Considering I am happy with the power of the 8 valve 1.6, that says a lot about the MPFI 16 valve version. With a good set of extractors, and a decent exhaust I figure a 16v 1.6 is all a guy would need..at least up to a 33 inch tire. I can;t imagine 31's lol.. it would be a screamer. Some guys turbo them here in the states and get a little more out of them. Stock ECM, and 6-7Lbs of boost, is a good reliable setup. More boost needs a lot more work. Here's the turbo build up. Did you guys get the j20 2 liter that is an option too. turbo ya 1.6 16v clicky
Yeah we got the J20 out here. Few guys on this board have/are doing this conversion.
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strutts
Joined: Sat Jan 22, 2011 2:05 am Posts: 57 Location: Melbourne
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I was told that a 1.6 block on a gti motor was a good choice. But you guys seem to know more than what I was told lol.
Because I actually havent got a Sierra yet. what year will be easiest to drop a G16B in? And will I need to get an engineers coz I was thinking about doing it myself with a few mates.
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Damo

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Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4661 Location: Brisbane
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strutts wrote: I was told that a 1.6 block on a gti motor was a good choice. But you guys seem to know more than what I was told lol.
Because I actually havent got a Sierra yet. what year will be easiest to drop a G16B in? And will I need to get an engineers coz I was thinking about doing it myself with a few mates.
Anything with a 1.3 will be relatively straight forward. 1.0 requires more fab.
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