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TryHard
Joined: Thu May 13, 2010 1:49 am Posts: 1041 Location: Perth
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hey guys today i noticed what i think is a my ball joint leaking basicly im talking about some seal behind hub and its leaked all into my rim what do i replace and how hard is it thanks
also is it a ball joint im talking about lol ta
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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http://www.suzistore.com.au/shopexd.asp?id=1183&bc=no
its all a case of undoing bolts, fitting seals, then doing all the bolts back up again, but expect it to take around 1.5hrs per side at least as you need to strip the whole diff down including taking out the wheel bearings and axles.
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TryHard
Joined: Thu May 13, 2010 1:49 am Posts: 1041 Location: Perth
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so its my hubs leaking at the back ? so should i do my wheel berings why im at it
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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dawsey
Joined: Fri Mar 19, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 218 Location: perth
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just put a swivel hub kit through my car ..not to hard a job at all..pretty messy..if you go that far might as well do the wheel bearings ,,not included in the kit ..got the same kit on ebay for $89..Both my hub seals were completly shot..
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Teracis
Joined: Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:03 pm Posts: 2261 Location: Gold Coast
Vehicle: Daisy
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Damn, my right front is leaking, not to the point of dripping on the floor though so I might leave it a while yet.
I'm guessing it just leaks the diff oil out?
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mrw82

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Joined: Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 1350 Location: stuck in a hole. not off road, just deception bay.
Vehicle: snotbox, 84 LWB sierra 1 litre
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your hub should have grease in it, not oil. I'd say your axle seal is leaking.
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Teracis
Joined: Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:03 pm Posts: 2261 Location: Gold Coast
Vehicle: Daisy
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mrw82 wrote: your hub should have grease in it, not oil. I'd say your axle seal is leaking.
I realise the hub should have grease in it, I was just wondering if it sealed the oil in the diff+axle or there was an actual axle seal in the front.
It just looks a little wet, I was looking for a grease point but saw no grease nipple on the hub so as you've said I assume it's coming out of the diff
Unless I'm lucky and it's just melted grease, although it's looking a little too thin for that...
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TryHard
Joined: Thu May 13, 2010 1:49 am Posts: 1041 Location: Perth
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boostedbrick

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Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:44 am Posts: 2003 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 2018 DMAX
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Teracis wrote: mrw82 wrote: your hub should have grease in it, not oil. I'd say your axle seal is leaking. I realise the hub should have grease in it, I was just wondering if it sealed the oil in the diff+axle or there was an actual axle seal in the front. It just looks a little wet, I was looking for a grease point but saw no grease nipple on the hub so as you've said I assume it's coming out of the diff  Unless I'm lucky and it's just melted grease, although it's looking a little too thin for that...
The oil will have to get past the grease and scrapers to leak onto the swivel hub.. Check this picture, this is the oil seal that will be leaking, into where the CV sits and the grease is..
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Teracis
Joined: Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:03 pm Posts: 2261 Location: Gold Coast
Vehicle: Daisy
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Damn internet dropped and my last post didn't work.
Mine looks to be leaking the same as that one tryhard posted, nowhere near as bad though.
Also that seal looks like a bugger to get to!
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TryHard
Joined: Thu May 13, 2010 1:49 am Posts: 1041 Location: Perth
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 Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 9:43 am |
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so guys anyone know what i need to buy to fix this and what i should change do why im at it ..how hard is this job thank s
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boostedbrick

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Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:44 am Posts: 2003 Location: Brisbane
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mrw82

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Joined: Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 1350 Location: stuck in a hole. not off road, just deception bay.
Vehicle: snotbox, 84 LWB sierra 1 litre
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might cost a few $$ but you should replace: axle seal, hub seals, kingpin bearings and wheel bearings.
if you want to be a typical suzuki driver and not spend that much money then just replace the axle seal.
here's how you do it:
1 remove wheel and freewheeling hub end cap, remove circlip from end of CV shaft
2 remove brake caliper assembly
3 remove brake rotor
4 undo the 4 bolts that are now exposed from removing the rotor, split housing and remove.
5 remove CV from diff housing
6 replace axle seal
7 refit in reverse order.
this procedure is a simple task as kingpins, hub wiper seals and wheel bearings do not need to be touched. however if you don't know when they were done last I recommend doing the lot.
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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Tryhard - yours looks like an axle seal - definitely do wheel bearings at the same time - often a collapsed bearing destroys the seal too.
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TryHard
Joined: Thu May 13, 2010 1:49 am Posts: 1041 Location: Perth
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hey guys thanks for the advice i think i might just replace the seal and do rest in a few weeks time when i order my front locker and cromolys axle shafts
thanks mrw82
for the guide
it only needs to wheel once at powerlines then its taking a brake lol got a long list of upgrades to do
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Vash
Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:12 am Posts: 130 Location: Sydney
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hey fellas, doing mine now but my question is, you got two bearings at the top & bottom of the housing, with the bearing races. i cant seem to remove the races. do i just slap in replacement bearings? my kit came with replacement races but i cant seem to remove the old ones.
cheers.
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boostedbrick

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Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:44 am Posts: 2003 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 2018 DMAX
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The way i did it was to use a flat blade, come down thru the race at the top and onto the inside of the race at the bottom. Tap one side, then tap the other one and so on. Than flip over and do the same. There should be a tiny lip that you can get onto on the inside of the race..
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Vash
Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:12 am Posts: 130 Location: Sydney
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cheers mate. ill give it a shot.
also the workshop manual says i gotta cut the swivel seal to fit... but the one i removed wasnt cut?? what the
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boostedbrick

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Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:44 am Posts: 2003 Location: Brisbane
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Its tight but should fit over.. Mine did anyway..
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xedent

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Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 895 Location: Sunshine Coast, QLD
Vehicle: LWB Maruthi on WT Diffs!
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i am doing this tomorrow, was fun pulling it all apart few months back.....
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Vash
Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:12 am Posts: 130 Location: Sydney
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 Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 8:20 am |
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ok i slipped it over. now im confused after removing the kingpin bearing races, i put the new races in, but now i cant seem to get the new bearings into those races... lol.
anyway, very messy indeed... looks like i gotta buy a tub of grease. any brand suggestions?
cheers
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boostedbrick

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Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:44 am Posts: 2003 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 8:25 am |
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you put the races in the right way? Knocking em out when there in the wrong way, and not damaging them mite be hard. As for grease, i just use highpressure bearing grease...
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Vash
Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:12 am Posts: 130 Location: Sydney
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 Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 8:36 am |
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the side of the race with the lip faces outwards from the hub right? thats from what i observed as i hammered them out
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boostedbrick

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Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:44 am Posts: 2003 Location: Brisbane
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On the right is what it should look like.

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Vash
Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:12 am Posts: 130 Location: Sydney
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 Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 10:06 pm |
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damn i put it in the wrong way... thanks mate.
off to the shop to get another two races, i dont think theres any chance of getting the old ones out beside using a dremel.
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xedent

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Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 895 Location: Sunshine Coast, QLD
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I just knocked them out with a center punch ?
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