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Marked

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Joined: Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:56 pm Posts: 580 Location: Perth
Vehicle: Suzuki Grand Vitata 2006
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 Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 1:16 am |
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Hi all,
just purchased a 2006 GV, went to Bremer Bay and did quite a bit of beach driving, and towing a trailer.
Need more clearance for beach work. I don't do a lot of off road stuff.
Can someone please advise on what the pros and cons of new springs over spacers are? I notice a lot of guys use lift kits.
I have been quoted $630 from wilikinsons for new springs all round, drive in drive out. Which is what I want, I dont want to have to stuff around with it myself.
Also if anyone is in Perth, and has suggestions for places to go to for fitting, that would be helpful too.
Bremer Bay Trip
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
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 Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 5:17 am |
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new springs will lift the rear but you will also need longer front struts. If you dont you run the risc of topping out the stock ones and they will fail when you least expect them to.
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Marked

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Joined: Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:56 pm Posts: 580 Location: Perth
Vehicle: Suzuki Grand Vitata 2006
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 Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 6:12 am |
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My understanding of this quote was that it was complete 4 wheels exchange, will email and check out. what have you done to yours?
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MacDaddy

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Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 10453 Location: Perth, Australia
Vehicle: Jeep
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 Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 7:20 am |
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Marked wrote: Hi all, just purchased a 2006 GV, went to Bremer Bay and did quite a bit of beach driving, and towing a trailer. Need more clearance for beach work. I don't do a lot of off road stuff. Can someone please advise on what the pros and cons of new springs over spacers are? I notice a lot of guys use lift kits. I have been quoted $630 from wilikinsons for new springs all round, drive in drive out. Which is what I want, I dont want to have to stuff around with it myself. Also if anyone is in Perth, and has suggestions for places to go to for fitting, that would be helpful too.
Springs spacers are a cheap poor way to do it, you still have stock springs which dont extend/travel, as far as lifted springs do...
Buying lifted springs only, is half the job, you really need to get extended travel shocks, or you will limit the amount of travel of the new springs, and wear out the shocks quicker...
Much better to get a complete suspension kit !
I have the Ironman lift Kit in my 01 GV, cost me $840, which fit well into my budget, and i am very happy with it !
They have a just opened a store here in WA, if your interested...
Dobinson do a lift Kit for the 06 GV, Dobinson are moderately priced at close to $1100, and possibly Tough Dog, but they are expensive, well over $1500, not sure if Old Man Emu do, but they will be expensive as well... there may be a few other brands that make them for the 06 GV... it depends on how much you want to spend... any good 4WD shop will be able to help you out more, some are Zook friendly, and some are not  i found Opposite Lock to be good...
Just did a quick search on ebay, for suspension kits for the 06 GV, and found this -
Its a 40mm Kit for $880
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Suzuki-Grand-Vit ... 3364834530
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Marked

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Joined: Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:56 pm Posts: 580 Location: Perth
Vehicle: Suzuki Grand Vitata 2006
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 Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 7:43 am |
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I had fitted King springs to my 1994 Vitara, and they were great, but with the newer car, I imagine I may need to change shocks as you have said.
That ebay kit is only for 2005 I think, and I am not confident to do it myself.
Thanks for the heads up on Ironman, have sent them email. and will check out what they say. Opposite Lock only do up to 2005
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MacDaddy

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Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 10453 Location: Perth, Australia
Vehicle: Jeep
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 Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 4:21 pm |
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Marked wrote: I had fitted King springs to my 1994 Vitara, and they were great, but with the newer car, I imagine I may need to change shocks as you have said. That ebay kit is only for 2005 I think, and I am not confident to do it myself.
Thanks for the heads up on Ironman, have sent them email. and will check out what they say. Opposite Lock only do up to 2005
That link says 2005+ GV, so it could mean 2006...
Pretty sure i saw an Ironman Kit for the 06+ GV, its pretty new, they only had a 35mm lift for mine last year, but they now have a 50mm lift...
I wasnt confident to do it either, thats why i got my local Opposite Lock store to fit them, it was only $400 to fit... its extra insurance/comeback should anything happen to go wrong, lol...
Here is the WA Ironman store details -
IRONMAN 4X4 PTY. LTD. PERTH
Unit 9/511 Abernethy Road
Kewdale, WA 6105
Ph. 08 6254 4444
Fax. 08 6254 4454
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Marked

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Joined: Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:56 pm Posts: 580 Location: Perth
Vehicle: Suzuki Grand Vitata 2006
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 Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 11:15 pm |
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
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 Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 5:55 am |
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Those coil spring part numbers are the same as Ironman. check their website.
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Marked

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Joined: Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:56 pm Posts: 580 Location: Perth
Vehicle: Suzuki Grand Vitata 2006
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 Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 5:58 am |
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I just cut and pasted it from the email I was sent from Ironman, not going with them anyway.
thanks.
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MacDaddy

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Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 10453 Location: Perth, Australia
Vehicle: Jeep
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 Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 6:40 am |
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Marked wrote: If anyone is interested, this is what Ironman quoted, $900, no mention of camber bolts. But I am thinking of going with King Springs from wilkinsons, $700 with camber bolts, but not new shocks, Wilkinsons assures me, and others have said also, no need to change shocks. But first I need to get it past the wife....sheesh.
Some kits come with camber bolts, some dont... they are pretty cheap...
What amount of lift are the King Springs ?
Hmmm... i have my doubts about them saying you dont need longer shocks... it would be fine onroad, but for offroad  which is why you are getting the lifted springs, you will limit axle/spring travel with a standard shock... 
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Marked

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Joined: Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:56 pm Posts: 580 Location: Perth
Vehicle: Suzuki Grand Vitata 2006
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 Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 6:50 am |
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its only a modest lift, 40mm, and even the bloke, Tim, from Outdoors said I could just change springs.
But I will change springs, see how it rides and if need be, get some shocks at a later date, so the wife does not notice as much...
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MacDaddy

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Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 10453 Location: Perth, Australia
Vehicle: Jeep
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 Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 7:19 am |
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Marked wrote: its only a modest lift, 40mm, and even the bloke, Tim, from Outdoors said I could just change springs. But I will change springs, see how it rides and if need be, get some shocks at a later date, so the wife does not notice as much...
40mm isnt modest, its pretty good for a GV... ah ok...
Ohhh i see... yeah good idea, gotta keep the Mrs Happy... to a degree... lol 
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