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Polar_Bear
Joined: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 2511 Location: Adelaide SA
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matfan

az supporter
Joined: Sat May 29, 2010 4:27 pm Posts: 935 Location: Paraguay
Vehicle: WT Tinny, NT lwb, 1L lwb
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TryHard
Joined: Thu May 13, 2010 1:49 am Posts: 1041 Location: Perth
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havnt used them but from what im read and seen tigers or tmaxs .. or even iron man are great winchs about 600 a pop
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smiffkid

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Joined: Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:55 pm Posts: 3266 Location: perth wa
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in recovery and it also being a safety issue id spend that little extra and have something decent, i have a tabor 9000lb winch in my zook, cost around 1000 but i trust using it when i need to, tho its only been used to recover others.
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14499 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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matfan wrote: Polar_Bear wrote: how much would shipping be on a warn winch from the us? i didnt realise genuine warns were so cheap over there http://www.lowrangeoffroad.com/recovery ... 20910.htmlYou can check by adding to cart and selecting shipping options
ya need to email lowrange for freight prices as the auto thing doesn't work properly.
i want to rebuild a highmount winch, i wonder if lowrange would be the go for parts.
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cairns27
Joined: Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:42 pm Posts: 489 Location: Macleay Island
Vehicle: '95 Vitara JXI LWB G16B
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winches are dangerous and next to f'n useless.
buy a hi-lift jack and some lifting chain.
If ya not on level ground some imbecile has to feed the rope back into the winch so it won't bunch up on one side..scary stuf
bit slower, but one man job with a jack
bye bye
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ajsr

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Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 3712 Location: melb
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cairns27 wrote: winches are dangerous and next to f'n useless.
buy a hi-lift jack and some lifting chain.
If ya not on level ground some imbecile has to feed the rope back into the winch so it won't bunch up on one side..scary stuf
bit slower, but one man job with a jack
bye bye
what a load of fucking bullshit.
obiously you dont know how to or have never used a winch.
mate if you don't know what your talking about shut the fuck up
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royce

omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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cairns27 wrote: buy a hi-lift jack and some lifting chain.
Now theres 2 items that have 100% never killed or maimed anyone 
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14499 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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cairns27 wrote: winches are dangerous and next to f'n useless.
buy a hi-lift jack and some lifting chain.
If ya not on level ground some imbecile has to feed the rope back into the winch so it won't bunch up on one side..scary stuf
bit slower, but one man job with a jack
bye bye
i would prefer to set my car on fire then to use a hi-lift jack as a winch.
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TryHard
Joined: Thu May 13, 2010 1:49 am Posts: 1041 Location: Perth
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shep wrote: cairns27 wrote: winches are dangerous and next to f'n useless.
buy a hi-lift jack and some lifting chain.
If ya not on level ground some imbecile has to feed the rope back into the winch so it won't bunch up on one side..scary stuf
bit slower, but one man job with a jack
bye bye i would prefer to set my car on fire then to use a hi-lift jack as a winch.
lol hahah
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jamo
Joined: Sat Jan 22, 2011 7:09 pm Posts: 64 Location: Smithton, TAS
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so my 3000 pound winch turned up and i have it mounted on the car trailer. you can definitely tell it is a cheapo ebay job, and after fixing a few issues it works ok. i wouldn't like to use it in a bog hole however. the only issue i had was the wiring for the wireless remote was touching and the winch was staying on! after removing the spade lugs and replacing with solder and heat shrink all is fixed. id recommend them, but not for recovery from a bog hole.
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cairns27
Joined: Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:42 pm Posts: 489 Location: Macleay Island
Vehicle: '95 Vitara JXI LWB G16B
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well i've winched a patrol with diff locks &and chains up a red mud hill,the road had a bit of lean to it,the car just wanted to lay against the side of the hill.with a warn winch, some one had to feed the rope, or it just all coiled on one side of the winch.
If you can buy a winch that feeds like a fishing reel, let me know, i'll get one.
If your out bush, a hi-lift jack is the safest option.
bye bye
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shakes
Joined: Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 4895 Location: Northcote
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cairns27 wrote: well i've winched a patrol with diff locks &and chains up a red mud hill,the road had a bit of lean to it,the car just wanted to lay against the side of the hill.with a warn winch, some one had to feed the rope, or it just all coiled on one side of the winch.
If you can buy a winch that feeds like a fishing reel, let me know, i'll get one.
If your out bush, a hi-lift jack is the safest option.
bye bye
wow, so you would rather work your fingers to the bone, risk smacking yourself in the head, chains slipping etc, just because it's a bit of an art to making the drum spool on properly? I really can't see how it's safer, using a tirfor is slightly arguable. but a highlift?
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ajsr

az supporter
Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 3712 Location: melb
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cairns27 wrote: well i've winched a patrol with diff locks &and chains up a red mud hill,the road had a bit of lean to it,the car just wanted to lay against the side of the hill.with a warn winch, some one had to feed the rope, or it just all coiled on one side of the winch.
If you can buy a winch that feeds like a fishing reel, let me know, i'll get one.
If your out bush, a hi-lift jack is the safest option.
bye bye
Ahh so you based that entire stupid statement above on ONE (yes thats 1) only winching experience. You must like the taste of your own foot???
next time your stuck on a seriously fucked up 100m plus climb make sure to video it and post it up. I need a good laugh and a 100m high lift winch will make my day.If you live to show us
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royce

omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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cairns27 wrote: well i've winched a patrol with diff locks ? chains up a red mud hill,the road had a bit of lean to it,the car just wanted to lay against the side of the hill.with a warn winch, some one had to feed the rope, or it just all coiled on one side of the winch.
If you can buy a winch that feeds like a fishing reel, let me know, i'll get one.
If your out bush, a hi-lift jack is the safest option.
bye bye
You had the anchor in teh wrong spot
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14499 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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royce wrote: cairns27 wrote: well i've winched a patrol with diff locks ? chains up a red mud hill,the road had a bit of lean to it,the car just wanted to lay against the side of the hill.with a warn winch, some one had to feed the rope, or it just all coiled on one side of the winch.
If you can buy a winch that feeds like a fishing reel, let me know, i'll get one.
If your out bush, a hi-lift jack is the safest option.
bye bye You had the anchor in teh wrong spot
exactly, thats why when you have a winch you also have an assortment of extension straps and snatch blocks etc.
i have used a winch to turned a fully loaded, very bogged bush fire fighting truck 180deg so we could pull it out off where it was. fuck doing that with
a hilift, or for that matter a turfor.
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cairns27
Joined: Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:42 pm Posts: 489 Location: Macleay Island
Vehicle: '95 Vitara JXI LWB G16B
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What size trailer do you guys use to cart your recovery gear?
You'll need leather gloves too. bits of wire through the finger in the bush so things down.
With a jack you have got control of how much load youre moving, I've got an extenstion on mine, and know it caqn be relied on; water doesn,t seem to affect it.
Reading the thread above, it seems like your using ya winch to pull someone else out, let them buy the winch; ya still gonna need a jack.
bye bye
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buzbox
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3600 Location: Wollongong NSW
Vehicle: LWB Sierra & XL7
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cairns27 wrote: What size trailer do you guys use to cart your recovery gear?
bye bye
Well MOST winches are bolted to the front bar, a winch dampner packs pretty much flat, So do gloves, and a snatch block is very compact too. A winch extention strap is optional and whaddya know it rolls up smaller than a snatch strap. Including an ARB vulcanising and liquid tyre repair kits, an air compressor, various tools and spares, I fit all that and more into a dufflebag.
so yeah, No trailer required.
But having a high lift jack hanging on the back or on the roof racks makes you look good doesn't it.
Bye bye.
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inbits
Joined: Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:30 am Posts: 600 Location: qld
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i have never had a winch but would love one. We had a jeep bogged so bad we couldnt snatch it out with 2 sierra's ended up using my hilift and it did work well but sucks ass (very slow and you have to unhook once you get to the end of the jack to shorten the strap. tirfors work well but are still hard and slow
Id take a winch anyday
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smiffkid

az supporter
Joined: Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:55 pm Posts: 3266 Location: perth wa
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hi lift takes up more room then a few recovery straps and gloves.
at least with a winch your out of harms way in case some things breaks or slips, hi lift is good when your on flat ground and u want to lift a tire out of a hole, other wise stick with the winch, when u learn how to use 1 you will see how much easier and safer it is then getting smaked in the head my a hi lift under tension
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14499 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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i carry a high lift but dont use it my self. i give it to bogged people because
i get a bit of a laugh watching people fuck the wheel arches on there shitboxes.

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DarkHorse

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Joined: Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 5413
Vehicle: 08 SV650
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I've got a cheep Aldi winch - clutch is a little touchy but easy enough to lock in once it's under load. Has pulled me out a few times when on my own, so I reckon it's paid for itself. As long as you maintain them reasonably well and test them before you go out I'm happy to rely on it.
I carry a Hi-lift as well most of the time, just in case, but haven't had to use it yet. Would be an absolute last resort, phuck that if I can avoid it.
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14499 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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my ebay 3000lb winch turned up today and i reckon it will be fine dragging
my boat onto the trailer. i have pulled it apart and regreased it with real grease and checked that every thing is tight.
i was actually surprised at the quality of it, while it is no flash winch it is very good value for $80 including freight.
it will be interesting to see how long it lasts.
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
Vehicle: suzuki
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shep wrote: my ebay 3000lb winch turned up today and i reckon it will be fine dragging my boat onto the trailer. i have pulled it apart and regreased it with real grease and checked that every thing is tight. i was actually surprised at the quality of it, while it is no flash winch it is very good value for $80 including freight. it will be interesting to see how long it lasts.
the same one i was looking at shep?
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14499 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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yeah mate, this one. the frame is held together with 2 m6 screws and 2 tiny bolts so i
wouldn't trust it on a car.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll ... K:MEWAX:IT
i see that the price has gone up but. haha they get shafted when i buy free
freight stuff. i have a 60kg genset coming that was free freight, i reckon that
the freight cost will be 5 times what i paid for the genset.
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buzbox
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3600 Location: Wollongong NSW
Vehicle: LWB Sierra & XL7
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hey Jonno, I've got one here if want.
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Navy_mike
Joined: Wed Nov 03, 2010 4:08 am Posts: 23 Location: Brisbane
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Polar_Bear wrote: how much would shipping be on a warn winch from the us? i didnt realise genuine warns were so cheap over there http://www.lowrangeoffroad.com/recovery ... 20910.html
I just tried it again to brisbane city and this is what i came up with
Worldwide Expedited $740.23
Worldwide Express Saver $1,033.27 
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14499 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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Navy_mike wrote: Polar_Bear wrote: how much would shipping be on a warn winch from the us? i didnt realise genuine warns were so cheap over there http://www.lowrangeoffroad.com/recovery ... 20910.htmlI just tried it again to brisbane city and this is what i came up with Worldwide Expedited $740.23 Worldwide Express Saver $1,033.27 
get a proper quote as that is more then what my rear bumper and swingaway tyre carrier cost
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got_bar_work
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 8:30 pm Posts: 2214 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SQ625
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i had to use my hilift to winch my car (with no motor or gearbox)up on to the truck because my winch wasnt conected at the time and fuk me that was hard. it took like a hour to move 2 car lengths. No way would i do that up a rutted hill with a few hundered extra kg in it.
i will keep my tiger 11 thanks
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steve

I live here!
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 7681 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 75 Cruiser
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Did anyone see the winch "comparo" (i hate that word) in the 4wd action magazine? Some of the cheap winches did really well, i think the Warn didn't do so well.
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