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barney7779
Joined: Fri Sep 18, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 131 Location: Liverpool, NSW
Vehicle: Sierra 1992 1.6L
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Hey guys
Doing the G16b conversion at the moment and need some help with the wiring
Anyone got a diagram for a 97 Vit with the 3 wire air flow and mitsu computer.
Computer has 2 blue plugs on it
Better still anyone know how to do it that lives close to penrith that could come give me a hand for a few hours one night or on the weekend would be great.
If i can get the right diagram for it then i will have a go but i dont want to stuff anything up
Cheers
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lumpy_zook
Joined: Thu Jan 27, 2011 2:15 am Posts: 108 Location: whyalla
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basicly the same set up that i have. any help would be great!
im in the same situation myself..
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buzbox
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3600 Location: Wollongong NSW
Vehicle: LWB Sierra & XL7
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 Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:34 am |
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Looking at the wiring diagram in the workshop manual I have here, It looks like a mess but If i can beat my scanner into life I'll post them up.
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barney7779
Joined: Fri Sep 18, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 131 Location: Liverpool, NSW
Vehicle: Sierra 1992 1.6L
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 Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:48 am |
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buzbox wrote: Looking at the wiring diagram in the workshop manual I have here, It looks like a mess but If i can beat my scanner into life I'll post them up.
That would be great, If that dont work any chance i would be able to borrow your book so i can sort the giant spagetti mess out
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mondo
Joined: Wed Dec 29, 2010 10:18 pm Posts: 481 Location: Jimboomba
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i was in this boat a little while ago, i just looked at the wiring and HOLY F%$. i ended up draping the wiring loom on top of the sierra, getting it to start, then slowly picking apart the loom, once i was happy with the amount i had removed, i spliced it into the sierra loom, 1 step at a time and make sure it still starts!!! have you made your vss yet?
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buzbox
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3600 Location: Wollongong NSW
Vehicle: LWB Sierra & XL7
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 Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:56 am |
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Just doing the final steps of installation. should be done in a sec, If I can't you can come down and I'll have it photocopied for ya.
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barney7779
Joined: Fri Sep 18, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 131 Location: Liverpool, NSW
Vehicle: Sierra 1992 1.6L
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 Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:01 am |
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Mondo- Got the vit cluster so just have to remove VSS from it and fit to sierra speedo
Buzbox- You are a champ
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buzbox
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3600 Location: Wollongong NSW
Vehicle: LWB Sierra & XL7
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 Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:11 am |
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Now I just need to find out how to upload pdf files, or pm me your email address and I'll send it to ya's.
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barney7779
Joined: Fri Sep 18, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 131 Location: Liverpool, NSW
Vehicle: Sierra 1992 1.6L
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buzbox wrote: Now I just need to find out how to upload pdf files, or pm me your email address and I'll send it to ya's.
PM sent
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buzbox
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3600 Location: Wollongong NSW
Vehicle: LWB Sierra & XL7
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emailed.. 
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barney7779
Joined: Fri Sep 18, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 131 Location: Liverpool, NSW
Vehicle: Sierra 1992 1.6L
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 Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:26 am |
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Cheers mate
Might help me out of trouble a little bit
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lumpy_zook
Joined: Thu Jan 27, 2011 2:15 am Posts: 108 Location: whyalla
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is htere any way of ditching most of the loom and just running the main engine harness? just powering the ecu and getting the tacho signal?
i dont want to mess around with cluster or body loom swaps, and on closer inspection my vitara loom isnt complete.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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you can attach pdf's via the attachment function on the forum
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buzbox
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3600 Location: Wollongong NSW
Vehicle: LWB Sierra & XL7
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buzbox
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3600 Location: Wollongong NSW
Vehicle: LWB Sierra & XL7
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 Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:49 am |
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Haynes manual wiring diagrams for g16b Sidekick/Tracker
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lumpy_zook
Joined: Thu Jan 27, 2011 2:15 am Posts: 108 Location: whyalla
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only problem with zookinators write up is that he doesn't really explane the wiring, its just, 'started with this, ended with this'
the pdf's you put up are good! thanks for that. now to try to decifer it all...
can anyone explane the go with the distributers on this model? (with the two blue plugs on the ecu)
it seems like the coil is built into the dizzy, as it only has 4 leads coming off the cap.
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royce

omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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lumpy_zook wrote: is htere any way of ditching most of the loom and just running the main engine harness? just powering the ecu and getting the tacho signal? i dont want to mess around with cluster or body loom swaps, and on closer inspection my vitara loom isnt complete.
youll need a lot of room and some patience, pull the sierra loom out and lay it out on a flat surface in the same fashion as it sits in teh car so its easier to picture where it all is
Get the vit loom and cut all the tape off and combined with a wiring diagram for the vit find all the wires that go from the ecu to teh engine, then figure out what all the wires that go from the ecu to somewhere else go and either splice them into the sierra loom or not use them (stuff like AC signals)
then there will be some of the original sierra engine wires youll need to sort out, alternator wires, starter wires, oil pressure and temp etc
Its piss easy to do if you take your time and work logically, if wiring isnt your strong point you are probably better of finding somebody on here that can take your looms and splice them and send it back
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mondo
Joined: Wed Dec 29, 2010 10:18 pm Posts: 481 Location: Jimboomba
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yea this dizzy has the coil and crank angle sensor built in, it should have 7 pins on the plug to the distributor? mine was a 96 model, mitsu comp as well but mine had yellow plugs
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lumpy_zook
Joined: Thu Jan 27, 2011 2:15 am Posts: 108 Location: whyalla
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sweet, yea, thats the same one.. at least i can keep all the electrics dry in the same spot
thats what im doing atm, its all laying out on the floor, or what i have anyway.
will see how i go. any clues to where to patch into for power feed, or any tips?
thanks
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coneykid
Joined: Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 388 Location: bundy
Vehicle: suzuki sierra coily
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here are two stand alone engine harness diagrams, thats all you need to make them run.
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lumpy_zook
Joined: Thu Jan 27, 2011 2:15 am Posts: 108 Location: whyalla
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just checking back here. wiried my loom up to test the motor before final fitment, and nothing is happening. no spark or fuel from what i can see.
my set up is as above in my previous posts. the distributor is all in one, coil etc. the ecu has two blue plugs.
i have had no luck in finding a wiring diagram for this set up!
can anybody help me out here? i cannot afford to pay someone to do a loom for me. but cant find the info to do it myself.
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
Vehicle: Awesome!!
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lumpy_zook wrote: just checking back here. wiried my loom up to test the motor before final fitment, and nothing is happening. no spark or fuel from what i can see. my set up is as above in my previous posts. the distributor is all in one, coil etc. the ecu has two blue plugs. i have had no luck in finding a wiring diagram for this set up!  can anybody help me out here? i cannot afford to pay someone to do a loom for me. but cant find the info to do it myself.
Fuel pump prime?
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lumpy_zook
Joined: Thu Jan 27, 2011 2:15 am Posts: 108 Location: whyalla
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Pump is hard wired. Doesn't spark. All I need is a wiring diagram for the 97 model...
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BenT

az supporter
Joined: Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 208 Location: Nelson, NZ
Vehicle: 85 SJ413
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lumpy_zook wrote: Pump is hard wired. Doesn't spark.
What wires have you connected into the Sierra loom?
I would start by un-hard-wiring the pump and connecting it to the ECU fuel relay.
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lumpy_zook
Joined: Thu Jan 27, 2011 2:15 am Posts: 108 Location: whyalla
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its not connected to the sierra loom. the motor is set up in the car, and computer is wired in with power etc from the battery. i dont have a diagram to know what does what exacty, so iv wired what i can direct to a battery.
i need a diagram to know what wire is what.
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BenT

az supporter
Joined: Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 208 Location: Nelson, NZ
Vehicle: 85 SJ413
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Wires you should have connected:
White wire -> battery - permanent power.
Black and white wire -> ignition on wire in Sierra steering column.
Black and yellow wire -> start circuit again in steering column
Pink wire -> fuel pump
Optional:
Yellow wire -> VSS (vehicle speed sensor)
Purple wire -> check engine light.
Have a look at the wiring diagrams posted. They may not be exactly the same as yours, but they are all similar, and the same wire colours are used for the above connections on all looms (AFAIK)
Ben
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royce

omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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Is there black/blue that needs to be ignition power in a 1.6 as well or does the ECU take care of it?
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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royce wrote: Is there black/blue that needs to be ignition power in a 1.6 as well or does the ECU take care of it?
Yes.
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BenT

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Joined: Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 208 Location: Nelson, NZ
Vehicle: 85 SJ413
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lumpy_zook wrote: All I need is a wiring diagram for the 97 model...
Try this.
Oh, and looks like I forgot the black/red permanent power wire to the main relay.
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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black red is another start signal, hook to black yellow
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