[smiffkid]

or build it stong enough to hit some thing with,
if its gonna bend the bar then your car is gonna be pretty damaged any way,

[monley]

Smiffkid i all goes though testing right because of the airbags right??

[smiffkid]

well thats it

[mr_ron]

Yeh i do like that .. However I think its more of a gimick.. how many people with steel bars have replaced then multiple times becaus ethey hit just one end of it?

I talked to Geoff at Opposite Lock and he said that in the case you did bend one of the Steel V pieced steel bar ends. the fact that there are 10 or so high tensile bolts holding it together, the chances of not doing damage to the middle or chasis mount assembly is probably unlikely.

But dont get me wrong, I'm in no way 'slagging' off the xrox bar, I like the theory of being able to change the ends rather then a whole bar and the approach is very well thought out as well as the many many mounting point for accessories(theres heaps). They just arnt MY cup of tea..

Ron

[BertZook]

I post it before and shame that I trow away that issue of 4WD action bull bar comparo.... but they test different brands including the xrox in crash testing a "roo" to it at wht it would be a "decent" speed to cruise, and the xrox held pretty good... one of the best, no too much damage either to the bar and to the car in the wing section of the bar (all testing were in that part), and the fact that it was bolt together didnt affect the performance at all

[monley]

Also another good thing with the bolt on wings you can take them of when wheeling if your tyres scrub at full flex.

[mr_ron]

BertZook wrote:

I post it before and shame that I trow away that issue of 4WD action bull bar comparo.... but they test different brands including the xrox in crash testing a "roo" to it at wht it would be a "decent" speed to cruise, and the xrox held pretty good... one of the best, no too much damage either to the bar and to the car in the wing section of the bar (all testing were in that part), and the fact that it was bolt together didnt affect the performance at all

I do remember seeing that I'm just going off what Goeff said. I was interested in one for my zook(but he said they wouldnt be making one for sierras) He was telling me that theres a chance you couldnt just replace an end, , and the fact he worked for OL and kind of made me think he knew what he was talking about..(sillly thought now I think of it )

Ron

[smiffkid]

if they rub on the bar that would be the least of your worries,
they sit up pretty tight and dont hang back much
well it actually changes between each 1 thats made,
but normally there pretty high up

[monley]

I read that in OL's last product catalog that people take them off when wheeling. And the bar should not changes very much at all with each one that is made, if it is all jig work.

[mr_ron]

Yeh I've seen people take them off, but have you seen the amount of bolts on them lol..

If your rubbing on and Xrox front bar wouldnt your tyres most likely be rubbing on or stuck against the rear of the arch?

Never the less, I would be keen to see what they look like and whether or not a Sierra one is Available.. (doubt it tho)

[monley]

I wouldn't bother taking them off for wheeling and the only advantage i see i maybe a better approach angle when wheeling but they already have a good a approach angle.

[BertZook]

^^^ true


also it might be able to fit sierras.... not too much difference in size with a jimny...(I think), it could be fit with some minors mods... donno

[joeblow]

monkey wrote:

I read that in OL's last product catalog that people take them off when wheeling. And the bar should not changes very much at all with each one that is made, if it is all jig work.

whats the point of having frontal protection then? might as well just bolt some c channel to the front! the jimny is a great looking vehicle, and placing the xrox bar on it is going to make it look like a turd. i have seen some tube bars that have been executed well, this aint one of them. first thing they should do is slope that top hoop rearwards.

[monley]

joeblow wrote:

monkey wrote:

I read that in OL's last product catalog that people take them off when wheeling. And the bar should not changes very much at all with each one that is made, if it is all jig work.

whats the point of having frontal protection then? might as well just bolt some c channel to the front! the jimny is a great looking vehicle, and placing the xrox bar on it is going to make it look like a turd. i have seen some tube bars that have been executed well, this aint one of them. first thing they should do is slope that top hoop rearwards.

how you do know that the jimny xrox bar hasn't been well executed,as it has not been released yet?And I personal would never bother taking the wings for wheeling. Also "the jimny is a great looking vehicle, and placing the xrox bar on it is going to make it look like a turd". how do you know that it will? ot moght not, it may make the jimny look very different in a good way and As i already said it hasn't been released yet only time will tell.

[Fatzook]

monkey wrote:

joeblow wrote:

monkey wrote:

I read that in OL's last product catalog that people take them off when wheeling. And the bar should not changes very much at all with each one that is made, if it is all jig work.

whats the point of having frontal protection then? might as well just bolt some c channel to the front! the jimny is a great looking vehicle, and placing the xrox bar on it is going to make it look like a turd. i have seen some tube bars that have been executed well, this aint one of them. first thing they should do is slope that top hoop rearwards.

how you do know that the jimny xrox bar hasn't been well executed,as it has not been released yet?And I personal would never bother taking the wings for wheeling. Also "the jimny is a great looking vehicle, and placing the xrox bar on it is going to make it look like a turd". how do you know that it will? ot moght not, it may make the jimny look very different in a good way and As i already said it hasn't been released yet only time will tell.

Its his opinion Monkey. Don't take offense. You have no need to defend X-rox either. Their work SHOULD speak for itself.

Having said that, I personally think tube bars look too agressive and make most 4bys look 'Un-tidy', which draws the attention of the rozzers more often than not.

IMO
Pete

[monley]

Fatzook wrote:

monkey wrote:

joeblow wrote:

monkey wrote:

I read that in OL's last product catalog that people take them off when wheeling. And the bar should not changes very much at all with each one that is made, if it is all jig work.

whats the point of having frontal protection then? might as well just bolt some c channel to the front! the jimny is a great looking vehicle, and placing the xrox bar on it is going to make it look like a turd. i have seen some tube bars that have been executed well, this aint one of them. first thing they should do is slope that top hoop rearwards.

how you do know that the jimny xrox bar hasn't been well executed,as it has not been released yet?And I personal would never bother taking the wings for wheeling. Also "the jimny is a great looking vehicle, and placing the xrox bar on it is going to make it look like a turd". how do you know that it will? ot moght not, it may make the jimny look very different in a good way and As i already said it hasn't been released yet only time will tell.

Its his opinion Monkey. Don't take offense. You have no need to defend X-rox either. Their work SHOULD speak for itself.

Having said that, I personally think tube bars look too agressive and make most 4bys look 'Un-tidy', which draws the attention of the rozzers more often than not.

IMO
Pete

monkey wrote:

Every ones entitled to there opinion

I have already said that everyone is entitled to there own opinon.

Sorry if it's seems like i was taking offense to his post, didn't mean for it to come across that way.

[BertZook]

so.... re they out yet? ?

[monley]

Not that i have heard of, i think i read some where it was going to be late this month.

I will find out on Monday of they are out yet...

[BertZook]

sweet! ..... got no money though... but I would love to see one in a jimny

[monley]

Yeh im cashed up ready to go!

[BertZook]

DO IT!!!!

[monley]

Ok got another e-mail from them today, expected recommended retail price will be from $995 to $1040 so almost the same price bracket as the ARB bar.

[BertZook]

yeah I suppose it was going to be like that.... either way I would still pay for it

and I will when I get money..... hopefully there's a job coming soon
just have to wait till the end of the week for the interview

[monley]

[vermin]

Can't speak for this bar, but when you hit a 105 series hard in the arse offroad the ARB bar holds the car together pretty well.

Shame Suzuki have that deal with every new Jimny - everyone has one mow

[Joe]

vermin wrote:

Can't speak for this bar, but when you hit a 105 series hard in the arse offroad the ARB bar holds the car together pretty well.

Same with the vitara ones when you hit a camry head on at 110



At least the bar was still still straight, kind of

[monley]

[alien]

unlike your face =) lol

[smiffkid]

all ways talking about hard arse hits arent u vermin

[Joe]

alien wrote:

unlike your face =) lol