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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
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 Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:15 am |
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Apart from the extra capacity whats the differences between the GV and Xl7 motors? The XL7 is stated at having 130kw @ 6200rpm where as the GV only has 106kw @ 6200rpm surely that little increase in cubes makes that big a difference?
Im asking coz im thinking out loud of maybe putting the XL7 motor in my GV to get some extra punch when and if my motor dies. Would i have to swap computers. My GV is one of the earlier ones with no ABS or Air Bags. XL7 had these as standard.
Thanx
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steak_knife
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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:23 am |
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2 different intake's on the Xl's..
1. has the same as a Gv
2nd has a vacuum operated butterfly in the front of the peleniam that shuts off the front pipe, giving more toque, so the spec's your reading are more than likly the 2nd one.
If you want to run the 2nd one you will need to run the ecu as well, because the ecu operates the butterfly..
Hope that help's... 
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Mugwui
Joined: Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1241 Location: Antarctica!
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:58 am |
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I was talking to a guy who was saying that you can do a cam mod to your existing 2.5lt an get better HP than the 2.7lt.
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vitzookman
Joined: Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:14 am Posts: 347 Location: Bris
Vehicle: 2001 XL7
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:19 am |
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You will need to sort the exhaust as they are different, the cat is apart of the header on some engines and this can be a head ach in the swap
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:33 am |
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I'd prob re-use the GV exhaust. Interested in this cam change you speak of.
More detail please.
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Mugwui
Joined: Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1241 Location: Antarctica!
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:44 am |
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Built4thrashing wrote: I'd prob re-use the GV exhaust. Interested in this cam change you speak of.
More detail please.
Really don't know too much about it.
DJ710 dropped over last week and was telling me all about it.
I can't remember if they were custom cam or out of something else.
I would look at doing it to mine, but it will be years off yet.
Might be worth a PM to him.
As he races GV's, he' deffinately in the know.
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Taylor74
Joined: Fri Dec 24, 2010 10:26 am Posts: 198 Location: Perth WA
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:50 am |
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Go to http://www.tighecams.com.au/ They seem to be the ones in the know in aus. If something is possible they will know.
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steak_knife
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:12 am |
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Taylor74 wrote: Go to http://www.tighecams.com.au/ They seem to be the ones in the know in aus. If something is possible they will know. & have been for yr's.....
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steak_knife
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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:13 am |
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vitzookman wrote: You will need to sort the exhaust as they are different, the cat is apart of the header on some engines and this can be a head ach in the swap
that's on the new shape Jb's...
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MacDaddy
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Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 10453 Location: Perth, Australia
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:47 pm |
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Built4thrashing wrote: Apart from the extra capacity whats the differences between the GV and Xl7 motors? The XL7 is stated at having 130kw @ 6200rpm where as the GV only has 106kw @ 6200rpm surely that little increase in cubes makes that big a difference?
The GV power rating is only for the pre 01 model, after 2001, they GV had more power and torque , 116kw @ 6200rpm, and up from 208nm, to 213nm at 3500rpm...
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
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Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:41 am |
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I posted those figures as mine is a 2000 model.
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shabz
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Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:43 am |
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MacBear wrote: Built4thrashing wrote: Apart from the extra capacity whats the differences between the GV and Xl7 motors? The XL7 is stated at having 130kw @ 6200rpm where as the GV only has 106kw @ 6200rpm surely that little increase in cubes makes that big a difference?
The GV power rating is only for the pre 01 model, after 2001, they GV had more power and torque , 116kw @ 6200rpm, and up from 208nm, to 213nm at 3500rpm... Correct. Happened in mid 2001....July or August from memory.
The question though - how do you tell which on yours is? (as mine is an 01 model) - i couldn't find any specifics on this but i believe it was when they changed the look of the front bar
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MacDaddy
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Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 10453 Location: Perth, Australia
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Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:27 am |
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shabz wrote: MacBear wrote: Built4thrashing wrote: Apart from the extra capacity whats the differences between the GV and Xl7 motors? The XL7 is stated at having 130kw @ 6200rpm where as the GV only has 106kw @ 6200rpm surely that little increase in cubes makes that big a difference?
The GV power rating is only for the pre 01 model, after 2001, they GV had more power and torque , 116kw @ 6200rpm, and up from 208nm, to 213nm at 3500rpm... Correct. Happened in mid 2001....July or August from memory. The question though - how do you tell which on yours is? (as mine is an 01 model) - i couldn't find any specifics on this but i believe it was when they changed the look of the front bar Not sure... but i think i read something here, about the Series 2 GV, the one with chrome strip at the front of the bonnet, was the one were they fixed all the small problems, and put the power upgrade in... any GV experts here, like Stekky, could maybe answer that one...
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shabz
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Joined: Sun May 03, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 646 Location: Melbourne
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Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:00 am |
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MacBear wrote: shabz wrote: MacBear wrote: Built4thrashing wrote: Apart from the extra capacity whats the differences between the GV and Xl7 motors? The XL7 is stated at having 130kw @ 6200rpm where as the GV only has 106kw @ 6200rpm surely that little increase in cubes makes that big a difference?
The GV power rating is only for the pre 01 model, after 2001, they GV had more power and torque , 116kw @ 6200rpm, and up from 208nm, to 213nm at 3500rpm... Correct. Happened in mid 2001....July or August from memory. The question though - how do you tell which on yours is? (as mine is an 01 model) - i couldn't find any specifics on this but i believe it was when they changed the look of the front bar Not sure... but i think i read something here, about the Series 2 GV, the one with chrome strip at the front of the bonnet, was the one were they fixed all the small problems, and put the power upgrade in... any GV experts here, like Stekky, could maybe answer that one... Are you referring to the chrome strip on the top of the actual grill?
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MacDaddy
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Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 1:20 pm |
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shabz wrote: MacBear wrote: shabz wrote: MacBear wrote: Built4thrashing wrote: Apart from the extra capacity whats the differences between the GV and Xl7 motors? The XL7 is stated at having 130kw @ 6200rpm where as the GV only has 106kw @ 6200rpm surely that little increase in cubes makes that big a difference?
The GV power rating is only for the pre 01 model, after 2001, they GV had more power and torque , 116kw @ 6200rpm, and up from 208nm, to 213nm at 3500rpm... Correct. Happened in mid 2001....July or August from memory. The question though - how do you tell which on yours is? (as mine is an 01 model) - i couldn't find any specifics on this but i believe it was when they changed the look of the front bar Not sure... but i think i read something here, about the Series 2 GV, the one with chrome strip at the front of the bonnet, was the one were they fixed all the small problems, and put the power upgrade in... any GV experts here, like Stekky, could maybe answer that one... Are you referring to the chrome strip on the top of the actual grill? Yep the chrome strip, about 2in wide, above the grille, between the bonnet and grille... 
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