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Post Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 8:33 pm 
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Once the 1.3 wears out, always liked diesels for the economy and torque, and even the prospect of running it on vegetable oil when fuel gets silly expensive.

http://www.rocky-road.com/diesel.html

looking here, it certainly wont be cheap but maybe in the long run it's worth it.

Has anyone done this conversion and would there be any issues with engineering in NSW?

Sorry if this has been asked before many times.

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Post Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:00 pm 
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Is that you Dak Dak?

If not, if you try on the other forum and ask VW Dave about it, i beleive he looked into it a bit.

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Post Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:01 pm 
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http://www.auszookers.com/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=19276&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=diesel+vitara&start=0

IMO Its not really about engineering it ts that nobody yet, in Australia, has found it a worthwhile project.

The idea of a diesel zook excites me as well but it is just too hard to get everything right. If you can get everything to fit, suspension and brakes corrected for the extra weight, gearing for a diesel is just to complicated and expensive. Petrol zooks like to rev around 4000rpm and up. A diesel likes to rev around half that. IE you need to make your overall gearing about 40-50% taller (which is opposite to what most zook owners want to do) That means you need big tyres and pissy little gears which with the torque of a diesel behind it (more than twice what your car was designed for) means things will snap.

Some ways around this. Look at Diesel Jimny's from europe. LHD only but the Renault engines are unrealiable, i have been told (from european jimny drivers)
There is the Pug and Mazda-powered diesel Vitaras from Japan but you can't import them directly, (front cut?)

I briefly looked at the Hyundai 1.6 diesel engine from the new i30. Its as efficient as diesels come with common rail injection but it's still too long, manifold was the wrong way round, and there is no suitable gearbox to fit it to. (i was quoted $4500 for an engine+turbo+ecu+ignition that had only done 5000km before the i30 maxed out into something)


I would love someone to convince me otherwise.

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Post Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 2:15 am 
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If suzuki bought out diesel motors in all their range and bought back the stockman with a diesel they sell 1000's. 1.8 gemini diesel with the 5 speed is the go if ya can get a good one. I meet a bloke in brisy had one. 75 mpg and reckoned it was quicker off the line than his rangerover. Only what I was told!

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Post Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 2:29 am 
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My car is powered by a 2.0l turbo intercooled VW motor, but it is petrol...

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Post Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 2:50 am 
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Hmm gearing is a problem i didn't consider.
Wonder why that site reckons its so good, maybe cos they're selling the kit i spose.

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Post Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:23 am 
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It is because that motor is plentiful over there.

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Post Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:35 am 
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droversdog wrote:
If suzuki bought out diesel motors in all their range and bought back the stockman with a diesel they sell 1000's. 1.8 gemini diesel with the 5 speed is the go if ya can get a good one. I meet a bloke in brisy had one. 75 mpg and reckoned it was quicker off the line than his rangerover. Only what I was told!

I call BS.... Even gemini diesels only got 49mpg... A Sierra weighs more and is a lot less aerodynamic....

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Post Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 4:42 am 
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suzuki santana from south america is diesel if i recall correctly? uses the peugeot variant of the VW diesel or something...

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Post Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 9:43 am 
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alien wrote:
suzuki santana from south america is diesel if i recall correctly? uses the peugeot variant of the VW diesel or something...


XUD9 Pug diesel from memory.

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