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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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Anyone ever had a handbrake that just wanted to stay on???
I release mine and it bloody springs half way back up!
Its obviously a spring somewhere causing it - any ideas where to look?
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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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have a look from underneath or from the top (not sure in sierra's), the spring may be caught on something making it spring back.
i hate brakes to....
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SuziBlu
Joined: Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4268 Location: Eyre Peninsula
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Bung a 6 pack n esky on it, thats a good fix.
Well, till the 6 pack is gone.
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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 Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:01 am |
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hahaha
seriously though...
can't see anything underneath that would be an issue.
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SuziBlu
Joined: Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4268 Location: Eyre Peninsula
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What does the weight of the handbrake feel like, as in, is the thing firm, meaning the spring is still attached, does it CLIK into place nicely, have you been out fukkin about and maybe a stone or stick has lodged itself somewhere so as the ratchet cannot grip and hold it in place.
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SuziBlu
Joined: Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4268 Location: Eyre Peninsula
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On a side note, the moon is the closest it gets, every 18 years it is as close as this, so to all, if your interested, get out and watch moonrise tonight, it will be huge.
Im in Gladstone, just got here, 8/8ths overcast and rain, damit.
All the southerners should have a most spekky view.
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ZookZilla96

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Joined: Mon May 24, 2010 8:58 am Posts: 229 Location: Noosa Sunshine Coast
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I had this same problem in a 75 series cruiser ute at work the other week. We just replaced the handbrake cable/assembly ($35 from repco) and it fixed the problem. The kit was from handle back to the rear brakes.
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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 Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 4:37 am |
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suziblu - handbrake feels normal to pull and release other than having more upward spring (it never used to have any)... sometimes its springy enough that the brake lever comes up 1/2 way!
Im guessing the cable must be catching along the way somewhere and the cable's tension is whats pulling it up???
as for the moon - yeah we're heading out tonight to take pics =)
ZookZilla96 - cheers mate - how hard of a job is it? obviously a hoist would come in handy...
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ZookZilla96

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Joined: Mon May 24, 2010 8:58 am Posts: 229 Location: Noosa Sunshine Coast
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it took 1/2-45mins and we did it on the ground. there should only be the 4 bolts holding the handle down then disconnect the cables of the brakes aswell as a few point where it is bolted down and it should come out then reverse the order for putting the new one in.
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canberramav
Joined: Mon Jun 01, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 643 Location: Canberra
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 Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 5:09 am |
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When i had this problem the cable was kinking under the handbrake lever when i tried to lower the handbrake.
Worth a look if you havnt already.
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4wheeljive

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Joined: Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 315 Location: Ballina
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 Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 5:26 am |
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My hand brake has the same porblem as well
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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 Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 6:15 am |
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interesting... i've just spent like an hour under / in / around the handbrake. i loosened the 4 bolts around the lever and tried moving it forward with the slack in the holes (moved about 1mm) as i saw the rubber boot was stretching when the brake was down, and when i pulled it up the tension came off the rubber.
i then spent like 30mins with a sharp screwdriver and needlenose pliers breaking away a bit of the boot so it didnt need to stretch to let the lever past it... this helped heaps, but its still coming back up to the first notch on the ratchet when i first release the brake. then, given a few wiggles it settles down to the floor and only springs up a tiny bit.
kinked cable makes sense. i cant see it kinking from underneath but its possible that its kinked inside the line somewhere on the way back.
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SuziBlu
Joined: Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4268 Location: Eyre Peninsula
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 Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 8:40 am |
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I have had hand-break probs, found, in my situation, that is was simply, believe it or not, dry stuff, a can of CRC lots of spray, work the lever lots, finger on the button, lift, let go, wriggle so as to feel it slot in, same when down, do it a few times, spray that is, and all seems to come right.
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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 Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 8:43 am |
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did all that =) didnt really help, but the button is nicer to push in now.. lol
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SuziBlu
Joined: Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4268 Location: Eyre Peninsula
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lol so its a help, woohooooo.
Mate, sorry if I insult your intelligence, but, have you crawled under and wriggled everything, left nothing unturned.
I seem to spend a fair bit of time under my zook doing the, thigh bone connected to the, knee bone, the knee-er, well you know what i mean.
Does seem to make a lot of sense to me, and quite often, I am under the car, the light suddenly turns on, and, yaaaaa, Im out of there, problem solved.
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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 Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 9:34 am |
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yeah i've wiggled everything and nothings catching or binding etc thats visible... but of course i cant see the cable inside the shroud - my guess would be years of mud/water/crap is in there and could easily have kinked the cable.
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SuziBlu
Joined: Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4268 Location: Eyre Peninsula
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Things that make you go, hmmmm
Im outa suggestions mate, not that any were of any value. One last one, have you tried going for a drive, with you hand holding the brake lever down, and feeling if it is a heavy or light thing doing this.
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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Get a bigger hammer.... 
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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 Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 12:20 pm |
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its the same no matter the conditions - however if i use the brake pedal while the hand brake is on the spring effect is greater when taking the hand brake off (ie: foot still on pedal).
its weird and i dont like it. lol
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Teracis
Joined: Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:03 pm Posts: 2261 Location: Gold Coast
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alien wrote: its the same no matter the conditions - however if i use the brake pedal while the hand brake is on the spring effect is greater when taking the hand brake off (ie: foot still on pedal).
its weird and i dont like it. lol
??? I didn't think the hand brake and foot brake were connected in any way. The only thing common to them is the rear drum they push on isn't it?
How does it go if you disconnect the cable from the drums? does it still spring back?
Maybe you have something lodged in the drum part of the system?
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Scrawny

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Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
Vehicle: Popemobile
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 Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 9:01 pm |
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Is yours the separate handbrake on the transfer or the rear drums? I would suggest pulling the drum off to see what's going on inside. Might just be a simple adjustment issue
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Rusho

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Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 6501 Location: Northside, Brisbane
Vehicle: Coily Sierra
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ScrawnC wrote: Is yours the separate handbrake on the transfer or the rear drums? I would suggest pulling the drum off to see what's going on inside. Might just be a simple adjustment issue
I had a similar problem once. Took it to some kiwi bloke and works fine now 
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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 Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:11 am |
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my handbrake is rear drums... i'll see about disconnecting the wire at the brakes end and if its still springy - good idea!
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Scrawny

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Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
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Rusho wrote: ScrawnC wrote: Is yours the separate handbrake on the transfer or the rear drums? I would suggest pulling the drum off to see what's going on inside. Might just be a simple adjustment issue I had a similar problem once. Took it to some kiwi bloke and works fine now 
You trusted your car with a Kiwi bloke??? 
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Rusho

Tubby Elfsdong
Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 6501 Location: Northside, Brisbane
Vehicle: Coily Sierra
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ScrawnC wrote: Rusho wrote: ScrawnC wrote: Is yours the separate handbrake on the transfer or the rear drums? I would suggest pulling the drum off to see what's going on inside. Might just be a simple adjustment issue I had a similar problem once. Took it to some kiwi bloke and works fine now  You trusted your car with a Kiwi bloke??? 
Desperate time mate....needed a handbrake 
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