[alien]

lyallrichards on here has KL71 and drives a lot of sand... maybe shoot him a PM about how they go there... smiffkid and monkey have been out with him on sand too.

i've had the KL71 on gravel as well, they skate a touch more than the KM2 on gravel but you get used to it, because of their softer sidewall they absorb corrugations better than the KM2 though.

[ZUKOFHZRD]

ive checked out a fair few reveiws and the trepador is similar or seems to be slightly in fron of the kumho

[DarkHorse]

I've had the Treps on for a while now over a bunch of different stuff and been happy with them, especially rocks and dirt. Not much to compare with though.

Anything will be a massive improvement over stockies.

[SierraDan]

I've got 31's on a 15x8 rim at -23 offset with a 2" lift and 30mm bumpstop spacing. I've bashed the seams flat and cut the outriggers off. Like this I get the tiniest bit of rubbing on the firewall at full compression/full lock, after I move my diff forward they will fit perfect and keeps me wide and stable.

[Rockhopper]

I had virtually the same as Sierra Dan 31's on 15 x 8 with -24 offset. The car had a 2" spring lift, 2" bodylift, extended bumpstops and I moved the diff forward 18mm (from memory). I left the gaurds alone as the car was immaculate and I did'nt want to start banging things with a hammer. The car did not rub anywhere

[shep]

ZUKOFHZRD wrote:

ive checked out a fair few reveiws and the trepador is similar or seems to be slightly in fron of the kumho

if the reviews were in magazines be aware that most magazine reviews are directly
related to the advertising budget of the thing being reviewed.
i reckon that if ya read about it then it is bullshit.

[nato78]

zooky08 wrote:

I'm just guessing here as I just bought treps today

For a 1lt u will have to swap in a 1.3 transfer case for the gears
A 15x8 rim with idea offset
Not sure if you could fit 31 on stock height unless you get the grinder out haha

Someone corrct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the 1L t/f case are better suited to bigger tyres due to the lower gearing

[zooky08]

Correct me if im wrong
1lt case is only good for 235 to get your stock gearing back
If u want to go lower then 4.1 you will have to get a 1.3 case nd put gears in it

[Zook_Fan]

The case with the 4wd light is the exact same as the 1.3L transfer. It is only the early model 1L transfers that you need to swap for a 1.3 for aftermarket gears.

[nato78]

zooky08 wrote:

Correct me if im wrong
1lt case is only good for 235 to get your stock gearing back
If u want to go lower then 4.1 you will have to get a 1.3 case nd put gears in it

Sorry mate, I was thinking along the lines of stock 1L gearing vs stock 1.3L gearing, but if you are sticking aftermarket gears in it, then I guess you would be better off with the 1.3L case

[SuziBlu]

zooky08 wrote:

Correct me if im wrong
1lt case is only good for 235 to get your stock gearing back
If u want to go lower then 4.1 you will have to get a 1.3 case nd put gears in it

I do not know what is in mine, but, its a maruti with, I believe; stock gearing, but a 1.3l donk. At 100 by the speedo, its doing 94 by the GPS, near the 3500 mark, and its on 31" bajas.

I asked me mate who I bought it from if he had done any gear work, its as he bought it. I recon as it flys for what it is.

[FHA57]

i ran kl71's they were a good tyre on the zook good on sand as well great in mud/rocks but i just bought a set of the new style maxxis bighorn 764 m/t 30x 9.5 put them on neg 12 15x7 f100 rims they look fantastic are great to drive on and i rekon its the perfect size/look for a zook i also have a 2inch spring and 2 inch body lift. 4wd monthly did a review on the maxxis bighorn and they got top marks compared to all the big guns.

[SierraDan]

I'm PRETTY sure but not 100%, but I think the 1ltr case I put in brought the speedo closer to normal.

[Zook_Fan]

Nope transfer gears don't effect the speedo. Only diff gears will help bring the speedo closer to normal.

[SierraDan]

But the 1ltr transfer has the speedo drive for the 1ltr motor, no?
Cos at 60 on the speedo it showed on the gps 72
It now shows 66.

[Zook_Fan]

yeah that would make sense

[ZUKOFHZRD]

not to me it wouldnt, im confused now, so wit a 87 1lt would i need to change the t case to put in gears, would i need to change the gears at all?

[SierraDan]

i went from a 1.3 trans to a 1ltr trans. so my gearing has been reduced. if you put a 1ltr trans in yours it wouldnt change. If you want lower gearing you would need a 1.3 case with aftermarket reduction gears or lower diff gears.

[ZUKOFHZRD]

fair enuf but wat is the std gearing inthe 1ltr t/case would it suport 31s

[SierraDan]

High:1.590, Low: 2.558

Im not sure how 31's would go on a 1ltr motor and standard gearing.
But 31's on the 1.3 and 1ltr trans gearing is bearable but not ideal.

[ZUKOFHZRD]

haha bearable its got 235/70/16s on the back at the moment isnt to bad but speedo it way out

[ZUKOFHZRD]

might chuck a 1.3 in it for now then, until i upgrade to the 1.6 or better, is it strait bolt up

[zooky08]

1lt case with switch is 12% lower then a 1.3 case I think
235 are 12% so with 235 it will roughly get your speedo back to standard

1.3 isn't a straight bolt in

[ZUKOFHZRD]

what you mean 235s will get me speedo back to std how if the t/case is std and standard tyre is 205 isnt it, how much diferent are the motors

[steak_knife]

zooky08 wrote:

1lt case with switch is 12% lower then a 1.3 case I think
235 are 12% so with 235 it will roughly get your speedo back to standard

1.3 isn't a straight bolt in

Speedo drive's of the final drive, so drive shaft speed, gear's won't bother it..

[zooky08]

Ok I'm wrong like usual
Still learning though

Ok correct me if I'm giving the wrong info

I wouldnt worry about puting a 1.3 in

I would go straight to a 1.6
G16a is pretty simple conversion, same as the g13ba conversion
The g16b is a bit harder cos of wiring nd etc

[ZUKOFHZRD]

gears and transfer are all standard anyway only thing different is tyres

[ZUKOFHZRD]

id rather go the efi and piss the carby of and go to coils insted of dizzy more reliable, ill work out the wiring i gess

[zukmeista]

You can fit transfer gears to a 1.0 shift light case, but you're probably better off to sell it and use a 1.3 case cause the 1.0 ones are worth more.

[ZUKOFHZRD]

fair enuf, good to no

and cheers evryone for you help this is a very helpfull forum and hope to get out to the powerlines or whatever the next outing is and meet some of you guys