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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
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How do you determine shim thickness required when fitting a locker?
new questions down the bottom
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Last edited by SierraDan on Thu May 05, 2011 12:23 am, edited 1 time in total.
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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atmospheric pressure at the point of impact...
wait, that's for an atom bomb.... 
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
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My ex sold her hard top for scrap the other day! I almost had welded diffs!
But alas, I don't have any spares. So auto it is 
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zammit
Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2010 9:18 am Posts: 273 Location: traralgon
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are you talking about the shimming of the pinion?
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
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 Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 7:43 am |
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i have NO idea. Someone said get it shimmed to get the right tolerances.
Thats why i wanna know how i figure out how to determine the right size shims.
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zammit
Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2010 9:18 am Posts: 273 Location: traralgon
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 Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 7:59 am |
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hmmmm. i have heard of getting a lsd shimmed but not a diff lock. but never the less i assume they would have shimms inside them. but if its brand new i doubt highly that you will have to do anything apart from bolt it in your centre housing. apart from set bearing pre load. backlash. and pinion depth.
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v6zookie
Joined: Sun Aug 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 35 Location: newcastle
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v6zookie
Joined: Sun Aug 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 35 Location: newcastle
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ajsr

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Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 3712 Location: melb
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 Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 9:36 am |
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there are specs/clearances the side gears/or couplers are supposed to have between the locker center and the housing.
really boys if you dont understand the question maybe you shouldn't answer.
the clearances are in the lockrite paperwork.
Ive never worrried about adjusting them as it was always close in my diffs and mines not used on road
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nato78

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Joined: Fri Apr 09, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 1504 Location: Auckland, NZ
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You won't need to worry about shims with your locker, if your still going to use a Spartan. If you try to put anything more than what came in the box into your carrier, things won't line up properly. You can get someone to set your backlash if you want, I didn't and ice never had an issue with mine
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
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 Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 9:38 am |
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i got a spartan. It just says chuck it in! also uses the side gears no couplers
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ajsr

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Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 3712 Location: melb
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just put it in then 
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nato78

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Joined: Fri Apr 09, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 1504 Location: Auckland, NZ
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
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Ahhh. Fuck yeah. Doing it this weekend then, got a dial indicator so ill set the backlash.
CHEERS GUYS
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303zuke

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Joined: Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2447
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Even though you re-use your side gears, it will still be worthwhile to check the shim clearance for the auto-locker to work to it's best. A loose autolocker will have "issues", whereas a tight will be more bearable to live with. It's easy to check, Scroll down to page 7.
We covered this once before and I posted a reply for the Genuine part numbers for the different thickness shims, but I can't seem to find that thread??
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gregdixon

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Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1017 Location: Perth
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If you follow thier instructions you shouldn't have to touch the back lash. I checked mine before and after I installed the locker and nothing changed.
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
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Eh, can't hurt to check anyway
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Brett

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Joined: Tue May 27, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1791 Location: Central coast NSW
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feeler guages.
can i borrow you dialy as well? i'll get mine set up
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
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Got those too. I'll check before and afters and match them.
Yeah mate.
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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ajsr wrote: just put it in then 
This thread's going to get good....
Why's my locker banging it's brain's out??? 
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
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 Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 11:04 am |
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If it starts banging and carrying on I'm welding the bitch.
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stockman

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Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 5319 Location: Canberra
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Spool.
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nato78

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Joined: Fri Apr 09, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 1504 Location: Auckland, NZ
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When I put my locker in, as I pulled the diff apart I punch marked EVERYTHING, that way when I put it back together it was just a matter of lining up the punch marks. That way everything went back together exactly the same as it came apart
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
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What sort of gasket sealant stuff do I use when attaching the center back to the housing?
Also, might do my front diff oil while I'm at it. Can LSD oil be used in an open diff? Just saves buying two lots of oil.
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gregdixon

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Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1017 Location: Perth
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You won't need LSD oil for the auto locker. Just run Hypoid oil front and rear. Unless you have a LSD in the front?
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
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 Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 12:55 am |
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I thought LSD oil was used in locked diffs of any form?
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mnemonix

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Joined: Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1409 Location: Newcastle NSW
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 Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 1:25 am |
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I use Penrite Hypoid 80w90 in my diffs. 1 with minispool, 1 with lockrite.
I use Permatex Ultra Grey gasket goo for refitting the centre. It has the highest resistance to oils. Any of the ultra range (blue/black/red) will more than do the job though.
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
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 Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 1:28 am |
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Hypoid.. Is that a type of oil or a the name of a Penrite oil?
Cool, I thought the grey would be sweet just wasn't sure if there was anything better I should use.
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nato78

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Joined: Fri Apr 09, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 1504 Location: Auckland, NZ
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 Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 1:32 am |
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I used permatex blue sealant and 80w 90 oil for the diff, you don't need LSD oil
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boostedbrick

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Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:44 am Posts: 2003 Location: Brisbane
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Hypoid is just a type of oil.. Not all gearbox oil is hypoid oil.. I use an LSD oil with my autolocker and standard repco 80/90 5liter bottles for eveything else.. Red gasket on everything, but the other shit will work.
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