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want33s

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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8134 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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 Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 8:21 pm |
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Do late (1996) Maruti's run a 4.11 diff ratio same as 1.0 Sierras?
If yes, are the centres interchangeable? Axle splines same?
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 8:46 pm |
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if its a WT style Maruti it should be all 1.3 sizes
Fatzook will be able to confirm it
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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 Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 9:34 pm |
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Yes. 411 on the 4.1's
Same size hemi and 3rd as 1.3L sierra. Flange pattern is apparently different, but thats easy fixed. 
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SuziBlu
Joined: Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4268 Location: Eyre Peninsula
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 Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 9:35 pm |
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How do you know if you have a wt maruti, without looking at the springs, mine is a MG410WT, but is an NT, I was of the belief that all Marutis of late were the same model code, so all were NT, all were 1l, so all the same.
The new ones, that we have heard ar coming out maybe true WT.
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want33s

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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8134 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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 Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 9:43 pm |
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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 Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 9:48 pm |
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SuziBlu wrote: How do you know if you have a wt maruti, without looking at the springs, mine is a MG410WT, but is an NT, I was of the belief that all Marutis of late were the same model code, so all were NT, all were 1l, so all the same.
The new ones, that we have heard ar coming out maybe true WT.
Mine was a WT. A TRUE WT (whatever tha means  )
94 was the change over year, so anything from 95 onwards should have WT diffs and spring spacings amongst other things.
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SuziBlu
Joined: Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4268 Location: Eyre Peninsula
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 Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 10:18 pm |
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What was the model name/number/id of the true WT maruti
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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 Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 10:31 pm |
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Same as yours
MG410
MG410T
MG410WT (wt )
I would also assume that Maruti did as suzuki have done since forever, by using mix and match parts from all the models at the crossover point. So if yours is a 94-95 it could be a bastard child. 
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SuziBlu
Joined: Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4268 Location: Eyre Peninsula
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 Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 10:39 pm |
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lol its a basted alright, but no, its a 92, WT thats a NT ??
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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 Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 10:43 pm |
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SuziBlu wrote: lol its a basted alright, but no, its a 92, WT thats a NT ??
92 is well before the changeover point, so its a NT with 1L sized diffs.
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SuziBlu
Joined: Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4268 Location: Eyre Peninsula
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 Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 10:52 pm |
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Yea mate, deff a NT, and the diffs are smaller in physical size to the drover. Thats why I have a set of WT diffs to go under, and need NT brackets placed on them.
When I was buying this thing, sight unseen, off a mate, he was telling me about the WT bit, and I was like woohoooo, but I got tricked.
I know it is geared funny, it goes really well, rev wise, with 31s on, 3,500 or so for 95k (GPS) 100k by speedo.
I pulled 215R15s off her, didnt test with the GPS before that, only got her, drove her home, at 90 or so, so must have been doing a lot less, lol, maybe thats why it took about 10 years to do the 900k.
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xedent

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Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 895 Location: Sunshine Coast, QLD
Vehicle: LWB Maruthi on WT Diffs!
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 Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 11:50 pm |
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Mine says mg410wt on compliance plate but it's a nt, the diffs don't physically look smaller then the wt ones I put in ?
Maybe there 1.3 nt diffs ?
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
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Also all have a shit gbox crossmember so you cant lift the transfer with blocks.
NT flanges. allround. But even a jap suzuki wt lwb has nt flanges.
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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xedent wrote: Mine says mg410wt on compliance plate but it's a nt, the diffs don't physically look smaller then the wt ones I put in ? Maybe there 1.3 nt diffs ?
No. They are 1L's.
Marutis only ever came out with NT 1L diffs or 1.3L WT's. They were never made with 1.3L NT's.
NT and WT are the same physical size, only the WT have longer axle tubes.
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SuziBlu
Joined: Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4268 Location: Eyre Peninsula
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 Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 1:07 am |
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Looking from the rear of mine, the center, pumkin or whatever you want to call it, is visibly smaller than the 1.3lnt I have. I know the only difference tween NT and WT in the 1.3l is the ratios and the axle length.
1l and 1.3l diffs are very different.
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maloo11
Joined: Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:17 am Posts: 232 Location: NSW
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I have a MG410WT 96 model so it should have the 1.3wt diff, rite? I have a sierra wt 3rd member with mini spool i wanna put in it.
Also do the stock drive shafts fit to wt sierra transfer
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joel
Joined: Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2191 Location: Dirranbandi
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 Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:32 am |
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mine says mg410 ... and its a wt 94 model
pretty sure june 93 was when the last nt were made, but were still rolled off the production line until early 94.
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mnemonix

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Joined: Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1409 Location: Newcastle NSW
Vehicle: '96 LWB trayback
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 Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:32 am |
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maloo11 wrote: I have a MG410WT 96 model so it should have the 1.3wt diff, rite? I have a sierra wt 3rd member with mini spool i wanna put in it. Also do the stock drive shafts fit to wt sierra transfer
Yes it's the same physical sized diff centre but the ratio's differ. You'll need to pull the minispool out of the sierra 3rd member and fit that to the maruti one.
The drive shafts will have a different stud pattern to the sierra transfer. Swap out or redrill the flanges to suit.
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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 Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:42 am |
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my 96 maruti diffs are 4.1 w/t 4 pinion with n/t (maruti) flanges
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