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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
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 Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:03 am |
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Okay so I did a quick half an hour search.
So I might have missed some information
So I read that the lwb efi vit tank (55l I think) can squeeze into the chassis rail of a Sierra
But require new mounts, that doesnt really bother me at all
Does the shocks come in any contact with the tank at all
I was thinking of just switching the sandwich plates around and move the shocks infront of the rear diff with custom top shock mount.
And cutting old cross member out.
Only con I see of doing this is I read stones will be hitting the shock
This doesn't bother me hence that's what a stone quard is for.
Will the filler come below the chassis or above, I guess it depends how you mount it.
Can you run both a engine mounted fuel pump and the efi pump at the same time
Or just not run the efi pump.
Engine will be a g16a (carby)
Sorry if this has been ask before
I didn't come across it in a search
Cheers
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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 Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:11 am |
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A sierr tank is approximately 600 x 420.
A LWB vit tank is approximately 760 x 490.
I'd wager that the tank and rear diff pumpkin will hit. And the tank will leave no room at all for your exhaust t pass by it.
Not sure about the filler, but I'd assume that it would be a PITA also.
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
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 Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:21 am |
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Will have a new exhaust any way
Well that's great thought I had a win
I read that you had a pejero tank in your ute fatz?
But then again it's a bit to tall for a Sierra
Is there any other tank around 50l to 60l that will just fit in the rails another vit, Jimmy tank
Or will I have to just walk around a wreckers with a measuring tape
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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 Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:26 am |
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zooky08 wrote: Will have a new exhaust any way Well that's great thought I had a win  I read that you had a pejero tank in your ute fatz? But then again it's a bit to tall for a Sierra Is there any other tank around 50l to 60l that will just fit in the rails another vit, Jimmy tank Or will I have to just walk around a wreckers with a measuring tape
This. Look at cars. Utes and commecials will have wierd shaped tanks that are just too big.
Vit tanks are alot of work for a very small gain IMO ( unless you want a swimmer pump for EFI)
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
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 Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:28 am |
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Can you not get long range tanks for sierra's? 
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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 Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:32 am |
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monkey wrote: Can you not get long range tanks for sierra's? 
Most long range tanks are about $1K. I can't see too many sierra owners shelling out that sort of coin for a fuel capacity increase that a $30 jerry can will give. Not to mention the loss of ground clearance.....
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ajsr

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Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 3712 Location: melb
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 Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:35 am |
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monkey wrote: Can you not get long range tanks for sierra's? 
brown davis automotive , bayswater vic
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
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 Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:41 am |
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The cheapest I've seen for a LR tank is $800
Still quite pricey
I don't want to carry Jerry cans either unless I really have to
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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 Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:44 am |
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ajsr wrote: monkey wrote: Can you not get long range tanks for sierra's?  brown davis automotive , bayswater vic
they never got back to me.
longranger also apparently have a 90ltr jobbie
for lwb sierras, however i couldn't find a retailer in darwin that would get me
one and they wouldn't deal directly with me.
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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 Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:47 am |
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
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shep wrote: ajsr wrote: monkey wrote: Can you not get long range tanks for sierra's?  brown davis automotive , bayswater vic they never got back to me. longranger also apparently have a 90ltr jobbie for lwb sierras, however i couldn't find a retailer in darwin that would get me one and they wouldn't deal directly with me.
The people who are making my long range tank, are planing on making one for sierra's but they just need a stockish one to borrow for a week, while they make it.
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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theres a place in WA that will custom manufacture fuel tanks (and certify them) with baffles etc and a sender unit for around $1500...its a lot of coin, but you get a result thats made to fit spot on (you could cut some of the tray outto give them more room to work with as well).
i borked at the price though cos im not doing any touring anytime soon and im happy to just keep filling it up every 300km =P
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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 Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:51 am |
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monkey wrote: The people who are making my long range tank, are planing on making one for sierra's but they just need a stockish one to borrow for a week, while they make it.
Will they be under $500? If not it won't be worth their time and effort.
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
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Fatzook wrote: monkey wrote: The people who are making my long range tank, are planing on making one for sierra's but they just need a stockish one to borrow for a week, while they make it. Will they be under $500? If not it won't be worth their time and effort.
um... doubt it  like any long range tank
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Lockie666

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Joined: Sat Apr 17, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 1874 Location: Perth
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Longranger do tanks, expensive as fuck. Not even I get discount on the pricks
I believe they do a 80+ tank to sierras with body lifts. maybe over the 100L mark?
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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 Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:56 am |
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monkey wrote: Fatzook wrote: monkey wrote: The people who are making my long range tank, are planing on making one for sierra's but they just need a stockish one to borrow for a week, while they make it. Will they be under $500? If not it won't be worth their time and effort. um... doubt it  like any long range tank
if they make a 100ltr jobbie and deliver it to katherine for around a grand then they will have a sale.
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
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shep wrote: monkey wrote: Fatzook wrote: monkey wrote: The people who are making my long range tank, are planing on making one for sierra's but they just need a stockish one to borrow for a week, while they make it. Will they be under $500? If not it won't be worth their time and effort. um... doubt it  like any long range tank if they make a 100ltr jobbie and deliver it to katherine for around a grand then they will have a sale.
They don't sell to the public 
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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 Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:01 am |
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monkey wrote: shep wrote: monkey wrote: Fatzook wrote: monkey wrote: The people who are making my long range tank, are planing on making one for sierra's but they just need a stockish one to borrow for a week, while they make it. Will they be under $500? If not it won't be worth their time and effort. um... doubt it  like any long range tank if they make a 100ltr jobbie and deliver it to katherine for around a grand then they will have a sale. They don't sell to the public 
then they dont get a sale. 
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ajsr

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if there was a decent demand , I maybe able to knock some up.
would most likely be for swb but long maybe possible
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boostedbrick

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Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:44 am Posts: 2003 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:15 am |
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I did some calculations awhile ago... Its possible to build an effective 55 liter tank(58liter), well gaining clearance, on a SWB with a 2inch body... Exhaust would need work. Easy enough if your not worried about compliance i guess..
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
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 Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:20 am |
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I would make one myself and try get it approved but I guess it's not as easy as it seams
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bagnkat

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Joined: Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 346 Location: Port Stephens.
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 Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:29 am |
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Lockie666 wrote: Longranger do tanks, expensive as fuck. Not even I get discount on the pricks  I believe they do a 80+ tank to sierras with body lifts. maybe over the 100L mark?
I have an 85L long ranger in my coily (probably the only thing that is interchangeable  ). It has a 2" body lift to accomodate it. You wouldn't want ithe tank to be any larger, since in relation to ground clearance, you may as well tow a boat.
Something else to consider is that you will need to find/fabricate a larger expansion tank. If you don't, fuel backs up to the carbon cannister and leaks out of it's overflow. This runs down the inner guard and leaks over the engine pipe.
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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 Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:32 am |
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bagnkat wrote: Lockie666 wrote: Longranger do tanks, expensive as fuck. Not even I get discount on the pricks  I believe they do a 80+ tank to sierras with body lifts. maybe over the 100L mark? I have an 85L long ranger in my coily (probably the only thing that is interchangeable  ). It has a 2" body lift to accomodate it. You wouldn't want ithe tank to be any larger, since in relation to ground clearance, you may as well tow a boat. Something else to consider is that you will need to find/fabricate a larger expansion tank. If you don't, fuel backs up to the carbon cannister and leaks out of it's overflow. This runs down the inner guard and leaks over the engine pipe.
lwb has twice the room behind the diff then a swb 
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bagnkat

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 Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:37 am |
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Fair call. Maybe they do a shallower, but longer tank for LWBs.
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MG410
Joined: Fri Apr 29, 2011 5:33 am Posts: 43 Location: Sydney
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 Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:13 am |
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I use a XF Ute (66ltr) tank that rest above original tank under the tray connected by Duel Tank Solonoid giving me over 1000km between fuel stops.
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shep
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 Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:15 am |
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MG410 wrote: I use a XF Ute (66ltr) tank that rest above original tank under the tray connected by Duel Tank Solonoid giving me over 1000km between fuel stops.
no one likes a bragger 
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Fatzook

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 Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:23 am |
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shep wrote: MG410 wrote: I use a XF Ute (66ltr) tank that rest above original tank under the tray connected by Duel Tank Solonoid giving me over 1000km between fuel stops. no one likes a bragger 
Well I've measured up the space on the drivers side of my rear driveshaft and can fit a 50-60L aux tank in there. Will be making that for my cape trip.
Should give me a total of 130-140L and a range of 1200+ kms 
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shep
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 Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:25 am |
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Fatzook wrote: shep wrote: MG410 wrote: I use a XF Ute (66ltr) tank that rest above original tank under the tray connected by Duel Tank Solonoid giving me over 1000km between fuel stops. no one likes a bragger  Well I've measured up the space on the drivers side of my rear driveshaft and can fit a 50-60L aux tank in there. Will be making that for my cape trip. Should give me a total of 130-140L and a range of 1200+ kms 
you can get fucked as well. 
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zooky08

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 Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:25 am |
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MG410 wrote: I use a XF Ute (66ltr) tank that rest above original tank under the tray connected by Duel Tank Solonoid giving me over 1000km between fuel stops. Did you fit it to a ute?
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MG410
Joined: Fri Apr 29, 2011 5:33 am Posts: 43 Location: Sydney
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 Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:26 pm |
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Under the Alloy Tray, I did fit a small 36ltr tank to SJ410 some 20yrs ago that fitted between trans box and rear diff
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