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maloo11
Joined: Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:17 am Posts: 232 Location: NSW
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Got my 6.5s today as well as a roctoy ring. Should i attempt the gear install myself or give it to transmission shop. Im a apprentice bush mechanic at best....(read i know the diffrence between a flathead and phillips lol). How much would a transmission shop charge for this sort of thing?
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Tubby Elfsdong
Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 6501 Location: Northside, Brisbane
Vehicle: Coily Sierra
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You will need a press, and a little knowledge on shimming etc. So I have been told. I have never personaly done it, but it seems do able if you can read instructions and take your time 
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31zook
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9242 Location: maito
Vehicle: <3 Edna <3
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buy a longish gear puller, a rubber mallet and use your brain  it's all very straight forward, just make sure you check the gaps with shims 
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appsie
Joined: Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2225
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i think shippo got his done at the shop same time as a clutch with a 1 grand bill or close to.
seems dear but if you dont think you can pull it off its worth the coin when you dont bust a case or lock up a bearing,shaft etc.
Dont forget to grab some new bearings and so on when fitting the gears.They werent part of the kit when i got mine.Cost about another $60.
A small press would make life easier and the instruction page from lowrange will make it all possible but if your unsure its alot of money
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31zook
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9242 Location: maito
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appsie
Joined: Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2225
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i think out coona way.Not near you josh,2 n a bit hours hours from me
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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
Vehicle: MY2019 Jimny
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maloo11
Joined: Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:17 am Posts: 232 Location: NSW
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Yeah i got new barings too. Had a look at instructions and it seems do able, nothing major. Jus have to keep checking everything as i go.
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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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Take your time, buy a tub of the correct bearing grease, and print out the instructions.
It is fairly easy, the instructions are very good.
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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lump_a_charcoal wrote: Take your time, buy a tub of the correct bearing grease, and print out the instructions.
It is fairly easy, the instructions are very good.
Bearing grease?? In a transfer case?? Its all lubricated by gear oil. 
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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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I am no expert, i just followed the instructions.
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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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crazynic
Joined: Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 69 Location: Jindabyne, NSW
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Yes grease is required for the initial lubrication of the bearings as the transfer like a manual gear bag is splash lubricated and some of the bearings depending on their location can suffer from a lack of lubrication before the splashing lubricates them enough to protect them.
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taszook
Joined: Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:14 am Posts: 173 Location: Tasmania
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i'm looking at getting some of these now the $ is even better than before. was gonna ask about bearings but its been covered so thx, also do you need a rocktoy ring or mighty kong or anything running these with 30's?
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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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I would... I got the Kong.
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Bucket

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Joined: Mon Nov 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 2191 Location: Vic
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If you decide to get it done at a shop, make sure you pull the case out instead of dropping the whole car down. You'll save yourself a fair bit in labour costs.
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appsie
Joined: Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2225
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not really,if you cant have a sierra case out in under 15 mins theres issues 
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LAY80N
Joined: Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 455 Location: Newcastle NSW
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appsie wrote: not really,if you cant have a sierra case out in under 15 mins theres issues 
But a mechanic will charge you a few hours labour
Gears are simple to fit, just follow the instructions and double check everything you are doing and you should be fine. To help pressing bearings on you can heat the bearing and freeze the shafts, makes them slip on nice and easy.
Layto....
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taszook
Joined: Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:14 am Posts: 173 Location: Tasmania
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just read through the instructions that came with my gears and cant see anything about shimming gears. it says to take a shim/spacer out, then put it back in the new gears. is that all thats involved?
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Teracis
Joined: Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:03 pm Posts: 2261 Location: Gold Coast
Vehicle: Daisy
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taszook wrote: just read through the instructions that came with my gears and cant see anything about shimming gears. it says to take a shim/spacer out, then put it back in the new gears. is that all thats involved?
I realised I hadn't put the shim back in when the case was all back together and gasket goo and bolted up.
When I thought about where it had been, it couldn't have made a difference because it was behind a bearing or something iirc.
Probably does make a difference but it hasn't broken yet!
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jimbo_jones

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Joined: Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4361 Location: gong
Vehicle: 2015 Jimny, LJ50, Maruti
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its easy as to do Ive done 2 case's nothing hard about it just follow the instuctions step by step
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zukenutter

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Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9045 Location: Brisneyland
Vehicle: 2006 Jimny JLX
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I'm not 100% happy with my transfer yet, it didn't have any shims when stripped but there's noticeable slack in it when going on-and-off the throttle. I'd like to know more about shimming in the transfer.
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Teracis
Joined: Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:03 pm Posts: 2261 Location: Gold Coast
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zukenutter wrote: I'm not 100% happy with my transfer yet, it didn't have any shims when stripped but there's noticeable slack in it when going on-and-off the throttle. I'd like to know more about shimming in the transfer.
Is that slack caused by the gears being worn?
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The shaft moving side to side because of the cut of the gears?
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zukenutter

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Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9045 Location: Brisneyland
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Teracis wrote: zukenutter wrote: I'm not 100% happy with my transfer yet, it didn't have any shims when stripped but there's noticeable slack in it when going on-and-off the throttle. I'd like to know more about shimming in the transfer. Is that slack caused by the gears being worn? OR The shaft moving side to side because of the cut of the gears?
That's what I'm thinking and is this what shims would counteract?
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taszook
Joined: Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:14 am Posts: 173 Location: Tasmania
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well they are in now and bolted up to mighty kong. got dark before i could bolt it back in tho. spins alright by hand so guess they a right haha
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taszook
Joined: Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:14 am Posts: 173 Location: Tasmania
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ok so i got the tcase back in tonight, ended up soaking wet from laying in the rain  got a few Q's
1) they are a little noisy, is this normal?
2) will they put my speedo out even more than just wheel size?
i struggle to hold 80 (reading on speedo) but i fell this is at least 10kms out. do have about 150km winds here atm so that didnt help
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TryHard
Joined: Thu May 13, 2010 1:49 am Posts: 1041 Location: Perth
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taszook wrote: ok so i got the tcase back in tonight, ended up soaking wet from laying in the rain  got a few Q's 1) they are a little noisy, is this normal? 2) will they put my speedo out even more than just wheel size? i struggle to hold 80 (reading on speedo) but i fell this is at least 10kms out. do have about 150km winds here atm so that didnt help
1 yes thats normal
2 yes 10kms out is normal if u have 31s .. i think haha
people says its like 7 i have no clue i think mines about 10
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3cyl
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 2054 Location: Ipswich
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Tyres will affect the speedo, but the gears won't.
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Teracis
Joined: Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:03 pm Posts: 2261 Location: Gold Coast
Vehicle: Daisy
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zukenutter wrote: Teracis wrote: zukenutter wrote: I'm not 100% happy with my transfer yet, it didn't have any shims when stripped but there's noticeable slack in it when going on-and-off the throttle. I'd like to know more about shimming in the transfer. Is that slack caused by the gears being worn? OR The shaft moving side to side because of the cut of the gears?That's what I'm thinking and is this what shims would counteract?
All the slack in my driveline is in the shafts and diffs as far as I can tell while driving, or are you checking by turning the transfer by hand?
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TryHard
Joined: Thu May 13, 2010 1:49 am Posts: 1041 Location: Perth
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3cyl wrote: Tyres will affect the speedo, but the gears won't.
sorry yer miss typed that one
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