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FullyZooked

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Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2010 9:01 am Posts: 1009 Location: Bendigo
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 Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 7:22 am |
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Hi all,
I have searched but to no avail.
Currently I am running a tired G16a in my Vitara and would like to go EFI. I have been checking out the Baleno 97 mdl G16B coil pack engine and also the g16B out of a Vitara.
Question is which engine is the easier fit? Is one better than the other? Any major differences eg. power?
OR, am I better off buying an injected 2dr Vitara and be done with it?
Any help would be greatly appreciated as I am looking to purchase an engine asap and get straight into it.
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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IMO you should skip straight past the G16B to something more powerful. Nothing too crazy, but something that is worth all that effort. 
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FullyZooked

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Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2010 9:01 am Posts: 1009 Location: Bendigo
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 Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 7:32 am |
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Fatzook wrote: IMO you should skip straight past the G16B to something more powerful. Nothing too crazy, but something that is worth all that effort. 
Keep in mind I am not after huge increases in power, more so for the better fuel economy and reliability.
What do you suggest Fatzook?
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gvzookdriver

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Joined: Mon Apr 13, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1833 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: Sold zuk got a Bt50
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Hasn't someone on here got 2.5l and I would think that would be good on the fuel because it wouldn't need to be working as hard but I could be wrong it's happened before 
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
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FullyZooked wrote: Fatzook wrote: IMO you should skip straight past the G16B to something more powerful. Nothing too crazy, but something that is worth all that effort.  Keep in mind I am not after huge increases in power, more so for the better fuel economy and reliability. What do you suggest Fatzook?
G16B outta a vitara will suit your needs then
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 7:41 am |
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according to my iFail app my J20a over the last 3+ months covering exactly 4693kms has averaged 13.2L/100km, best has been 11.2L/100km around town & the worst has been 18.7L/100 thrashing the hell out of it in the dunes loaded up with camping gear.
it's not exactly fuel efficient but it's not bad considering how far from standard it is.
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stocker
Joined: Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:16 am Posts: 941 Location: Shidoni!
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i've seen a couple of 4AGE Conversions running around as of late... would they be more fuel efficient ( they would definitly be more powerful )... and of course worth your while...
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Jasen
Joined: Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 86 Location: Toowoomba
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Bigger engines can be economical, but it all comes down to how you drive it. I've got my father's 3.5L V6 Magna atm and it has a nice little trip computer which can show instant/average fuel economy (dunno how accurate). I drove to the Gold Coast from Toowoomba in it a few weeks ago and got 7.0L/100km on average over 350kms (90% highway driving). But around town it'll jump up to 17L/100km+. Scary lookin at the instant fuel economy when givin it the boot at low speeds and seein it get close to 100L/100km lol 
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FullyZooked

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Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2010 9:01 am Posts: 1009 Location: Bendigo
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Sorry guys straying from the point here lmao!
I have been checking out the Baleno 97 mdl G16B coil pack engine and also the g16B out of a Vitara.
Question is which engine is the easier fit? Is one better than the other? Any major differences eg. power?
OR, am I better off buying an injected 2dr Vitara and be done with it?
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matty_wall
Joined: Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 989 Location: Blue Mountains
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pull all the stuff of your vitara you want to keep.. sell it, then buy an injected one and throw all the aftermarket parts on it. JMO but
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alexvitara

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Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2011 8:45 am Posts: 1602 Location: Gold Coast
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atari4x4 wrote: according to my iFail app my J20a over the last 3+ months covering exactly 4693kms has averaged 13.2L/100km, best has been 11.2L/100km around town & the worst has been 18.7L/100 thrashing the hell out of it in the dunes loaded up with camping gear.
it's not exactly fuel efficient but it's not bad considering how far from standard it is.
i get less than 10l/100km
i think i need to get my carbi tuned
i disagree with matty_wall, you know all the ins and out of the car you got now and you know exactly how its been looked after. buying another you risk getting a lemon.
and i'd assume the g16a to g16b vitara engine would be the easiest but havnt had any experience with it
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FullyZooked

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Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2010 9:01 am Posts: 1009 Location: Bendigo
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Alex are you getting that fuel economy with the G16a?
More than 400km per tank? How many K's on your engine?
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FullyZooked

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Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2010 9:01 am Posts: 1009 Location: Bendigo
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 Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 9:54 am |
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I really don't want to change cars. I really want a replacement engine. Is it worth the hassle to install a g16B or should I just get reco G16A?
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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alexvitara wrote: atari4x4 wrote: according to my iFail app my J20a over the last 3+ months covering exactly 4693kms has averaged 13.2L/100km, best has been 11.2L/100km around town & the worst has been 18.7L/100 thrashing the hell out of it in the dunes loaded up with camping gear.
it's not exactly fuel efficient but it's not bad considering how far from standard it is. i get less than 10l/100km  i think i need to get my carbi tuned i disagree with matty_wall, you know all the ins and out of the car you got now and you know exactly how its been looked after. buying another you risk getting a lemon. and i'd assume the g16a to g16b vitara engine would be the easiest but havnt had any experience with it
10/100 is BETTER than 11.2/100
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alexvitara

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Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2011 8:45 am Posts: 1602 Location: Gold Coast
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FullyZooked wrote: Alex are you getting that fuel economy with the G16a?
More than 400km per tank? How many K's on your engine?
actually now i think about it i get get about 300kms to a tank (40l)
i think im calculating it wrong
g16a with 220k on it, doesnt burn oil or anything tho
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matty_wall
Joined: Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 989 Location: Blue Mountains
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alexvitara wrote: FullyZooked wrote: Alex are you getting that fuel economy with the G16a?
More than 400km per tank? How many K's on your engine? actually now i think about it i get get about 300kms to a tank (40l) i think im calculating it wrong g16a with 220k on it, doesnt burn oil or anything tho
so your averaging about 13/100.
same as my old carb vitara.
seems to be the standard from my readings over the years.
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alexvitara

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Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2011 8:45 am Posts: 1602 Location: Gold Coast
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 Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 10:31 am |
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matty_wall wrote: alexvitara wrote: FullyZooked wrote: Alex are you getting that fuel economy with the G16a?
More than 400km per tank? How many K's on your engine? actually now i think about it i get get about 300kms to a tank (40l) i think im calculating it wrong g16a with 220k on it, doesnt burn oil or anything tho so your averaging about 13/100. same as my old carb vitara. seems to be the standard from my readings over the years.
that makes me feel alot better.
back to grade 8 maths for me
and sorry for the hijack FullyZooked
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matty_wall
Joined: Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 989 Location: Blue Mountains
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alexvitara wrote: matty_wall wrote: alexvitara wrote: FullyZooked wrote: Alex are you getting that fuel economy with the G16a?
More than 400km per tank? How many K's on your engine? actually now i think about it i get get about 300kms to a tank (40l) i think im calculating it wrong g16a with 220k on it, doesnt burn oil or anything tho so your averaging about 13/100. same as my old carb vitara. seems to be the standard from my readings over the years. that makes me feel alot better. back to grade 8 maths for me  and sorry for the hijack FullyZooked
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FullyZooked

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Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2010 9:01 am Posts: 1009 Location: Bendigo
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I have been looking for a reconditioned G16A and come across SuziFour : http://www.suzukiwreckers.com.au/page2.php
They are showing the engines for $850. This sounds resonable?
Does anyone have experience with these guys? I will have to have the engine freighted and don't want a DOA to deal with being so far away.
Cheers!
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alexvitara

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Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2011 8:45 am Posts: 1602 Location: Gold Coast
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 Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 11:18 am |
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i'd be asking what "reconditioned" means to them. it doesnt look like a full rebuild.
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