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Ruthless
Joined: Tue Jan 11, 2011 8:50 am Posts: 1049 Location: Brisvagas
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Im just in the middle of doin the conversion and I've been offered a 4agze motor for $600 does anyone know if it will fit as easy as the standard 4age or will I have issues with the intake manifold and room
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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They do fit. But only in one spot. There is FA wiggle room. I have seen one in the flesh.  VERY tight fit though, so you may have to get creative!
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Teracis
Joined: Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:03 pm Posts: 2261 Location: Gold Coast
Vehicle: Daisy
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Why so cheap though?
That's ridiculously cheap for a 4agze I'm just wondering what could be wrong with it for that price?
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Ruthless
Joined: Tue Jan 11, 2011 8:50 am Posts: 1049 Location: Brisvagas
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It's in pieces the guy was rebuilding it but lost interest and put some stupidly big motor in instead and needs to get rid of it
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dank
Joined: Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1157 Location: VIC
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Buy it, rebuild it, dump it in and have some fun. The 4AGZE motors are nutz in a sierra, just look at the tripptarka blue one on youtube, that thing is off tap.
My 20V + auto combo is not as crazy as the 4agze + manual combo but is super driveable.
Like fatzook said there isn't a lot of room to fit them and its not a straightforward swap but it insanely good fun once it's done.
I'd budget on about $2-3K realistically from my experience to get it done and running properly.
vids for motivation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd4eIYWQ ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s0Bqkgp ... re=related
I'm still kicking myself I didn't buy it when it came up for sale a few years back.
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Ruthless
Joined: Tue Jan 11, 2011 8:50 am Posts: 1049 Location: Brisvagas
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 Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 9:54 am |
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I have a 16 valve and t50 manual box and everything else for the swap I have just been offered this so it won't be that much more expensive
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Ridge
Joined: Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 942 Location: Brisbane
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Ruthless wrote: I have a 16 valve and t50 manual box and everything else for the swap I have just been offered this so it won't be that much more expensive
There are always little extras that add up. The big thing will be moving the transfer back about 100mm then shortening and lengthening drive shafts. Then you will have to make up a new jack shaft, it will basically be just 2 unis end to end
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Shansh

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Joined: Sun May 23, 2010 9:35 am Posts: 1816 Location: Goulburn NSW
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Ruthless
Joined: Tue Jan 11, 2011 8:50 am Posts: 1049 Location: Brisvagas
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 Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:32 am |
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Ridge wrote: Ruthless wrote: I have a 16 valve and t50 manual box and everything else for the swap I have just been offered this so it won't be that much more expensive There are always little extras that add up. The big thing will be moving the transfer back about 100mm then shortening and lengthening drive shafts. Then you will have to make up a new jack shaft, it will basically be just 2 unis end to end
Yes I know that all of that has to be done that is no problem I just thought that because it has a different intake manifold and a dirty big stupicharger hanging off the side of it that there might be issues fitting it compared to the standard one
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7717 Location: Brisbane
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hehehe your braking shit now with the g13 
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Ruthless
Joined: Tue Jan 11, 2011 8:50 am Posts: 1049 Location: Brisvagas
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tanshi wrote: hehehe your braking shit now with the g13 
i know ill just need to drive more carefully and swap the supercharger for a big turbo and put it on nos 
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masterA

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Joined: Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:24 am Posts: 976 Location: Perth
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If you're handy with the welder and fabrication and have about $3-4K spare....definatelly give it a go
You'll need custom engine and gearbox mounts....from memory the shifter will need to be moved backwards....tailshaft will probably need to be custom made etc
I thought about doing this conversion when i saw the youtube vids but if you want bang for you money...get the G16 or the GTi engine slotetted in...much cheaper and easier to re-licence as with the 4AGZE you will definatelly need an engineer to sign off which could cost $1000 alone
Good luck either way 
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7717 Location: Brisbane
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thats not how it works in QLD
in QLD we have to get a mod plate for any non standard engine swap. and its only about $100 per plate 
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Ruthless
Joined: Tue Jan 11, 2011 8:50 am Posts: 1049 Location: Brisvagas
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 Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:21 am |
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tanshi wrote: thats not how it works in QLD in QLD we have to get a mod plate for any non standard engine swap. and its only about $100 per plate 
Or free if you know the mod plate guy 
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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Ruthless wrote: tanshi wrote: thats not how it works in QLD in QLD we have to get a mod plate for any non standard engine swap. and its only about $100 per plate  Or free if you know the mod plate guy 
Well he must really like you because everytime he fits a mod plate to a vehicle and fills out the numbered form, HE is charged a pre-set amount by QLD transport.
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
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Fatzook wrote: Ruthless wrote: tanshi wrote: thats not how it works in QLD in QLD we have to get a mod plate for any non standard engine swap. and its only about $100 per plate  Or free if you know the mod plate guy  Well he must really like you because everytime he fits a mod plate to a vehicle and fills out the numbered form, HE is charged a pre-set amount by QLD transport.
Maybe Ruthy pays in a different method 
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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JrZook wrote: Fatzook wrote: Ruthless wrote: tanshi wrote: thats not how it works in QLD in QLD we have to get a mod plate for any non standard engine swap. and its only about $100 per plate  Or free if you know the mod plate guy  Well he must really like you because everytime he fits a mod plate to a vehicle and fills out the numbered form, HE is charged a pre-set amount by QLD transport. Maybe Ruthy pays in a different method 
Malaysian RINGgits? 
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Ruthless
Joined: Tue Jan 11, 2011 8:50 am Posts: 1049 Location: Brisvagas
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 Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:22 am |
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Yea fuckin oath
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