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luke3411
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Joined: Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:25 pm Posts: 183 Location: Katherine
Vehicle: Hard Top Fusty Ducker Vitara
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 Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 7:41 am |
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G'day Zookers. Just a bit of info but I wont be doin it for a few years. I heard the pre ecotec engines for the commodores are a common engine swap. Do's the engine mate up without a kit? Where can I purchase one of these kits? I've also been told that toyota celica engines will bolt straight in as well. Has anyone done these swaps and what are the pro's and cons? I know the Zooks aren't made for speed and thats not what I'm after btw. Just more grunt would be awesome. So if anyone has done these engine swaps or knows a bit about them can you sling it on this thread? Cheers everyone.
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harvs
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Joined: Sun Aug 07, 2011 10:31 am Posts: 192 Location: Newcastle
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Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 7:43 am |
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What model/year are you talking about putting it in?
Nothing will "bolt straight up". There's only varying degrees of difficulty.
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FHA57
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Joined: Thu Dec 16, 2010 5:35 am Posts: 179 Location: sunshine coast
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Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:54 pm |
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u wouldnt be happy with a commo swap and yes u need a kit to fit them they are very heavy and u cant go from a 1.3 to a 3.8 legally just do what everyone else does and go a 1.6 injection vit motor i did it to my zook and its more than enough. thats if ur talking bout a sierra btw also the 1.6 requires an adapter kit for the gearbox and and engine mount spacer on left side
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atari4x4
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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:27 am |
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FHA57 wrote: u wouldnt be happy with a commo swap and yes u need a kit to fit them they are very heavy and u cant go from a 1.3 to a 3.8 legally just do what everyone else does and go a 1.6 injection vit motor i did it to my zook and its more than enough. thats if ur talking bout a sierra btw also the 1.6 requires an adapter kit for the gearbox and and engine mount spacer on left side
FYI it's a vitara, it has a 1.6 in it already i'm guessing & there is no need for the adapter kit. 
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Fatzook
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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:42 am |
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I usually avoid this subject. Mainly cos I'm sick of reading the same question over and over again, but here goes......
The Commy V6 REALLY isn't that good. Its extremely heavy. And when you consider its capacity, and the power it puts out, it is not a good choice at all.
For example:
VN V6 puts out 125kw, 292Nm from 3800cc.
A 4AGZE puts out 125kw, 210Nm from 1600cc.
Whilst the GZE is still a heavy motor compared to the G16B, I'd estimate the VN V6 to weigh more than 80-100kgs over a 4agze. Both engines are about the same age (discounting the V6' buick heratige).
If you think it will be cheap......do some research on ALL the parts you will need to complete the conversion. Then add 30% and call that your budget.
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
Vehicle: Awesome!!
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Fatzook wrote: I usually avoid this subject. Mainly cos I made the same mistake using this POS engine back in the day
The Commy V6 REALLY isn't that good. Its extremely heavy. And when you consider its capacity, and the power it puts out, it is not a good choice at all.
For example:
VN V6 puts out 125kw, 292Nm from 3800cc.
A 4AGZE puts out 125kw, 210Nm from 1600cc.
Whilst the GZE is still a heavy motor compared to the G16B, I'd estimate the VN V6 to weigh more than 80-100kgs over a 4agze. Both engines are about the same age (discounting the V6' buick heratige).
If you think it will be cheap......do some research on ALL the parts you will need to complete the conversion. Then add 30% and call that your budget.
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tanshi
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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7717 Location: Brisbane
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Another slogan for the Auszookers T shirt.
Can i put a crummydore V6 in it?
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orangeshannon
Joined: Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:03 am Posts: 574 Location: Burwood, Victoria
Vehicle: yellow 83 sierra
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Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:46 am |
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stocker
Joined: Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:16 am Posts: 941 Location: Shidoni!
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Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 5:55 am |
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Turbo the G16  ...
Just putting it out there
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got_bar_work
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 8:30 pm Posts: 2214 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SQ625
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Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 8:03 am |
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I want to see some one put in a 1.8 Turbo petrol vw motor in a vit.
It's ment to fit pretty easy a guy on zukiworld did one . It lifts the front wheels on takeoff.
Well until something goes snap
Over 200 hp at the wheels
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luke3411
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Joined: Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:25 pm Posts: 183 Location: Katherine
Vehicle: Hard Top Fusty Ducker Vitara
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Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:56 am |
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I've got a mate that's slapping a turbo on his g16b and putting it into a sierra. Needs it though as he's got 35' tyres.
My mate keeps saying that my stock g16b with 31' will be no problem once I get them on there. My g16b hammers atm stock with stock car but I'm getting new suspension, tyres, body lift, Bullbar, winch ect. With all this extra weight is it gonna have problems? I'm assuming it's gonna be around the 120kg-150kg extra (just guessing).
I'm not after a fast car, I'm just after something that will perform reasonably.
Would changing the gear ratio be an option and what sort of ratio's are there available?
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