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>>TIMMAY
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2010 8:41 am Posts: 21 Location: melb, Vic
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Hey guys was searching the web for info on alternator convertions for a 1.3 sierra when i came across this...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... =WDVW&rd=1
From what i see it's far easier than a falcon convertion but couldn't find much info on guys in australia useing this kit. Just wanting to know what peoples thoughts are?
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Joined: Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:16 am Posts: 941 Location: Shidoni!
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Looks alright dude.
Pro - You get a Brand new Altenator with the kit
- its a bolt on package by the look of it.
Con - Its about 3 times the price of a Falcon Alt conversion.
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gandpnaturalsoaps
Joined: Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:21 am Posts: 6 Location: Margaret River W.A.
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I have this on my 91 swb and its working great, been on about 6 weeks no problem.
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want33s

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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8134 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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That kit looks pretty good, but..................
Replacing that alt won't be easy locally if you get it full of mud..
It retains a V belt.... I had to go to multirib on my falcon alt as a V belt can't take the load needed to make 100+ amp.
US$229 plus freight will make it near enough to $300 by the time you get it....
A lot cheaper to do an EF falcon alt conversion.
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SuziBlu
Joined: Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4268 Location: Eyre Peninsula
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Looks pretty beaut to me, will the small A section belt work ?
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>>TIMMAY
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2010 8:41 am Posts: 21 Location: melb, Vic
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but it's not really more $$ then the falcon convertion if you concider it's a brand new alternator
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want33s

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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8134 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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>>TIMMAY wrote: but it's not really more $$ then the falcon convertion if you concider it's a brand new alternator
Brand new EF alt....
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gandpnaturalsoaps
Joined: Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:21 am Posts: 6 Location: Margaret River W.A.
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the cs 130 alt are available in oz, not sure of cost but they are available if you need to replace them.
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>>TIMMAY
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2010 8:41 am Posts: 21 Location: melb, Vic
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Ok i see yer point The falcon is cheeper then i thought. but from what i've read the is alot of work and mucking around to get the falcon alt to fit.
I'm not planing to sink my alt in mud either.
So would the falcon alt be worth the trouble? or would i be better off with something like this?
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harvs

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Joined: Sun Aug 07, 2011 10:31 am Posts: 192 Location: Newcastle
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cs130 seems like a pretty generic alternator for GM vehicles. Lots of parts and variants on eBay.
You can pick them up as cheap as the new falcon ones. $130 landed out of the states (new).
Lots of upgrade kits available to if you find 105amps isn't enough
I guess if the V belt didn't hold you could chuck a serpentine one on. Lots of pulleys available for them off eBay.
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SuziBlu
Joined: Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4268 Location: Eyre Peninsula
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What about the wiring bit he was on about, plugs straight in, where as you need to do shit with wires to get the EF to work.
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>>TIMMAY
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2010 8:41 am Posts: 21 Location: melb, Vic
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Yer it was more the simplicity of this convertion that i was attracted to
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royce

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there are 2 wires, if you get them wrong nothing happens and you swap them over, shit you could leave the engine running while you do it
trying to drive that much with a V belt is a good point, you start winding up the belt tension up and you are putting more load on the alternator and water pump bearings
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>>TIMMAY
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2010 8:41 am Posts: 21 Location: melb, Vic
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sorry im still new two all this. so what would be a better option than a v belt?
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harvs

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Joined: Sun Aug 07, 2011 10:31 am Posts: 192 Location: Newcastle
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multi rib, like every non-ancient car has got
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CairnsZook

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>>TIMMAY
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2010 8:41 am Posts: 21 Location: melb, Vic
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Ok thanks guys. I'm still not 100% on what i'm going to do at this stage but i will do a bit more research?
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>>TIMMAY
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2010 8:41 am Posts: 21 Location: melb, Vic
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CairnsZook:
i have just read that link but im still confused. If i do the falcon alt, what pullys will i need? It seems every bodys useing diffrent pulleys?
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CairnsZook

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Not sure mate, I've got a 1.6 so all my pulleys are ribbed anyway.
You'll have to swap yours to be ribbed like the alternator.
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>>TIMMAY
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2010 8:41 am Posts: 21 Location: melb, Vic
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Ok no prob mate.
Dose anybody else no what the best pulley set up would be?
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BlueSuzy

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Nice name 
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FullyZooked

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Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2010 9:01 am Posts: 1009 Location: Bendigo
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I would also like to see an alternator put out 100+ Amps on a V belt.
As royce stated it would lead to one over tightening the belt and causing premature bearing failure.
Multi Rib belts have far more surface area in contact with the pully and therefore do not slip under higher loads like the V belts.
Stick with the EL alternator and get the right pulleys and you'll be laughing.
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>>TIMMAY
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2010 8:41 am Posts: 21 Location: melb, Vic
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I have done a bit more research into the GM cs130 alt and it's a Small high output alt and it's not much bigger than the standed 1.3 alt. Because of the size would the v belt still be an issue? There seems to be a few guys in the US that have them with out any trouble. Or would i just be better with the falcon alt?
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11_evl
Joined: Tue Apr 10, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 846 Location: logan reserve, Brisb
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GM sounds like the way to ... buy it, put it on and give us feed back!!!
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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>>TIMMAY wrote: I have done a bit more research into the GM cs130 alt and it's a Small high output alt and it's not much bigger than the standed 1.3 alt. Because of the size would the v belt still be an issue? There seems to be a few guys in the US that have them with out any trouble. Or would i just be better with the falcon alt?
its more to do with the horespower required to spin it at full load, which will be twice as much as the stock alternator
Now being that its unlikely youll ever get the thing making 100 amps (batteries dont really charge much higher than 30 amps) it will never be a problem, but if you were using it a lot (lots of lights or similar) youd notice the slipping
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>>TIMMAY
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2010 8:41 am Posts: 21 Location: melb, Vic
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Well im planning on runing Driveing lights, rear work light, led intirior lights, a winch and wanted to put in a bigger battery. I wanted the alt to be able to Charge the larger battery with out the risk of the battery dieing in the ass due to alt not being able to keep up.
I'm still tempted to get this kit and see how it gose, but on the other hand i dont want to go spending money on somthing thats not going to due the job.
At this stage i think the Falcon alt convertion is looking like a better option.
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