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Aaron

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Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 348 Location: Goldcoast, Pac Pines
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 Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:18 am |
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As the title suggests what should I get for my zoom next?
1: 6.5's
2. Air locker
Or get fatzook to do a ruf
I have about $1600 to spend
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
Vehicle: Awesome!!
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shakes
Joined: Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 4895 Location: Northcote
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What size tires? are you running/will you run?
Do you have bar/winch/uhf?
Either way, I'd say a locker last
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rpmwrx

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Joined: Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1303 Location: Geelong
Vehicle: JK Jeep, Sierra & Raptor
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 Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:54 am |
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I would say gearing... It will totally transform your zook driving experience!
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Aaron

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Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 348 Location: Goldcoast, Pac Pines
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 Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:53 am |
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I drive lots if big water washouts and ruts/ rocky steep hill climbs I have 30in bighorns and a 2 inch lift I've got an Arb bar but its rooted and a uhf
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alexvitara

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Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2011 8:45 am Posts: 1602 Location: Gold Coast
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wheel it 
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dank
Joined: Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1157 Location: VIC
Vehicle: WR250F/Jeep XJ
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I'd say reduction gears. best bang for buck mod you can do. Once you've got the hang of that then go a locker. RUF is not a bad idea but definitely the other two first.
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Ben_Sierra

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Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4472 Location: Perth
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If you've got 30s then definitely gears!
You'd be amazed at the improvment both off and on road!
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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 Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 6:19 am |
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gears are useless without a locker, just get a front lockrite and save for gears
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zammit
Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2010 9:18 am Posts: 273 Location: traralgon
Vehicle: Jimny
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MrRocky wrote: gears are useless without a locker, just get a front lockrite and save for gears

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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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yeah what would i know right
ever driven an unlocked geared car on 30's ? they suck balls
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just_cruizin

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Joined: Sun Jun 25, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 2867 Location: here
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MrRocky wrote: gears are useless without a locker, just get a front lockrite and save for gears
No offense but just means you can't pick lines. Gears give the best overall benefit after "good" tyres. Lockers aren't required for 90% of the tracks given good wheel placement.
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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just_cruizin wrote: MrRocky wrote: gears are useless without a locker, just get a front lockrite and save for gears No offense but just means you can't pick lines. Gears give the best overall benefit after "good" tyres. Lockers aren't required for 90% of the tracks given good wheel placement.
maybe the tracks u drive
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shakes
Joined: Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 4895 Location: Northcote
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MrRocky wrote: just_cruizin wrote: MrRocky wrote: gears are useless without a locker, just get a front lockrite and save for gears No offense but just means you can't pick lines. Gears give the best overall benefit after "good" tyres. Lockers aren't required for 90% of the tracks given good wheel placement. maybe the tracks u drive
Some more info on 'what' you drive would be nice rather than a blanket statement.
Gears will make your car easier to drive in all conditions.
A locker will usually get you further into the poo and not having one will teach you how much getting crossed up sucks. I will also second that good wheel placement will get you as far as someone with lockers that 'just pins it' then when you can afford them you will leave them for dead.
I'll vote gears - or winch/bullbar as that will help get you out 
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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in sand i assure u that a unlocked ungeared sierra on 30's will drive everything better than a geared one on the same tyres.
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
Vehicle: 03 Jimny
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 Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 8:18 am |
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You can get both a rear locker and 6.5s for $1600 
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Mattmorgo

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Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 464 Location: Southside Brisbane- the best side of the river
Vehicle: Shitbox
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 Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 8:19 am |
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in qld (where op is from) were lucky enough to have more then just sand available, and you cant beat the control you have with gears when driving steep inclines and declines, Or when driving rocks
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Jackson
Joined: Mon Apr 04, 2011 5:56 am Posts: 559 Location: Newcastle
Vehicle: Yellow Ute
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I am interested in this too. My zook is a stocker and I took it out the other day and found there was a couple of quite specific bits, mainly steps as the spring hanger just plowed into them before the wheel could get anywhere near the step.
I tried a couple of different lines and approches, It probably doesn't help I am a new dero driver  but I couldn't see me getting up it.
Did most of you fellas chuck some lift in first?
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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i drive big water washouts and ruts/ rocky steep hill climbs

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sleeperzook
Joined: Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 208 Location: Adelaide
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zooky08 wrote: You can get both a rear locker and 6.5s for $1600 
I'd do this. Honestly I can see where MrRocky is coming from with his comments. There is no substitute for proper wheel placement but in my experience of all types of terrain (sand, mud, rock) sometimes the only way up is straight through a massive rut that will max out your flex, lift wheels and have you stuck with open diffs. The question you have to ask is do you need to get up there or just want to get up there? If its a case of 'have to' then the only option is to smash it, which is where a locker is gold, but coupled with gears makes a zook crazy capable.
In the end drive I'd say gear it, to be nice on your clutch and zook, then once you find yourself getting stuck again, lock it.....air if you got the $$$
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 subwoofer!!!!
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
Vehicle: 03 Jimny
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Smelly tree for your revision mirror 
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607CHA

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Joined: Thu Apr 07, 2011 8:21 pm Posts: 265 Location: Baldhills
Vehicle: 02 jimny
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fuel tank lift.
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worldo

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Joined: Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 573 Location: coffs harbour
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just_cruizin

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Joined: Sun Jun 25, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 2867 Location: here
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MrRocky wrote: just_cruizin wrote: MrRocky wrote: gears are useless without a locker, just get a front lockrite and save for gears No offense but just means you can't pick lines. Gears give the best overall benefit after "good" tyres. Lockers aren't required for 90% of the tracks given good wheel placement. maybe the tracks u drive
Most of my wheeling these days is through stuff that has never been driven. Even when unlocked we were going through stuff most wouldnt consider.
As I said a good driver unlocked will out do a average driver with lockers. Anybody can point and shoot, it takes skill to drive the line.
Mods - gears and get Pete to ruf you up, don't forget to budget for brake hoses and shocks (don't forget to trim the bump stop mounts)
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whincup

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Joined: Sat Apr 17, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 1588 Location: Gracemere, QLD
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steak_knife wrote: :helloo: subwoofer!!!!
doof doof!! 
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
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MrRocky wrote: yeah what would i know right ever driven an unlocked geared car on 30's ? they suck balls
OI speak for yourself!! lil foot is unlocked, geared and on 30's and still straight!
Although she takes more time than the locked rigs she still goes quite a few places!
Lockers and 30's on any moderately hilly terrain calls for entertaining, bounce into everything, smoke that clutch type of driving.
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just_cruizin

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Joined: Sun Jun 25, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 2867 Location: here
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larry
Joined: Wed Sep 08, 2010 3:15 am Posts: 657 Location: penrith, NSW
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i like this thread
what should I do to my zook next (lwb vit)
i have 215s and 50mm spring lift and i have to keep it legal
should i get:
- tyres, for offroad only (235 or 30s)
- rear spool or lockright
- front spool/ lockright (on alloy diff)
- other ideas?
i would like to spend 500 or less
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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Larry, if you want to stay 100% legal, the only thing on your list you can do is the front lock wrong. (which I wouldn't do with an alloy front diff) AFAIK, lock rights aren't actually legal for road use although they are difficult to detect.
You definitely don't want to spool the rear in a daily driven vitara.
You don't want a spool in the front of anything, especially an alloy diff vitara.
You won't get bigger tyres on rims for your budget, and you might not like what the will do to your gearing off road.
I would lock the rear in your position though- it's the biggest bang for your buck mod you can do.
Steve
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