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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
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 Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 9:02 am |
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Popped my head under my bonnet today just to give every thing a quick check before my camping trip tomorrow and noticed this:
There is a hole in my over bottle and it's all De-formed from the heat to. I know the extractor's have caused this obsessively...but What i do want to know is if any one else has seen this happen before  ?
I don't know why it's happen just now, even tho i put the extractor's on over a year ago  .
So i will make a heat shield up for it next week once i get a new one and other jimny owner's with extractor's, take this as a warning an just keep a eye on your over bottle and maybe make a heat shield up, so this won't happen to you
Cheers,
Andrew
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 9:06 am |
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I'd also try & swing your A/C lines away from the pipes while your there. 
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
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atari4x4 wrote: I'd also try & swing your A/C lines away from the pipes while your there. 
Good idea!!! Thanks!!!
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
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you could also wrap the extractors in that posh heat proof stuff found on ricers
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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 Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 9:19 am |
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some on this stuff on the a/c lines will do the trick, it's a shit of a job trying to wrap headers on the car neatly. but realistically if you can move them so they hug the inner guard a bit more they'll be fine.... cable ties.
http://www.revolutionracegear.com.au/in ... ary&CDO=12
http://www.revolutionracegear.com.au/in ... ary&CDO=24
the overflow bottle will need a heat shield of some sort, you'd be surprised how effective even large dog food tin could be, cut the top & bottom out & flatten it out, then shape it. that or word on the street is your everyday road signs are a great source of alloy sheet, i hear the sticker stuff is really hard to remove. 
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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make a heat shield shaped to the extractors with some spacers that attach with hose clamps to the extractors =)
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
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atari4x4 wrote: i hear the sticker stuff is really hard to remove. 
you just burn it off with a nice big flame =) its:
1) more fun
2) easier
3) more fun
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
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atari4x4 wrote: some on this stuff on the a/c lines will do the trick, it's a shit of a job trying to wrap headers on the car neatly. but realistically if you can move them so they hug the inner guard a bit more they'll be fine.... cable ties. http://www.revolutionracegear.com.au/in ... ary&CDO=12http://www.revolutionracegear.com.au/in ... ary&CDO=24the overflow bottle will need a heat shield of some sort, you'd be surprised how effective even large dog food tin could be, cut the top & bottom out & flatten it out, then shape it. that or word on the street is your everyday road signs are a great source of alloy sheet, i hear the sticker stuff is really hard to remove. 
That's stuff looks the goods  !!!
I will have to get some of that stuff, as for the heat shield i'm sure i could find some thing at work 
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
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atari4x4 wrote: you'd be surprised how effective even large dog food tin could be, cut the top & bottom out & flatten it out, then shape it. 
I used a dog food can, to protect my transfer case mount from exhaust heat.
It would break every 5 minutes,
but after the tin plate buffer, it lasted forever
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SSSIERA
Joined: Tue Mar 22, 2011 1:26 pm Posts: 1770 Location: Perth's RUF
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is this holding you back from going on your trip?
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
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SSSIERA wrote: is this holding you back from going on your trip?
No!! Not really still got another car to take 
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
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monkey wrote: I don't know why it's happen just now, even tho i put the extractor's on over a year ago  .
Excessive time on the limiter can cause abnormally high exhaust temps 
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monley

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JrZook wrote: monkey wrote: I don't know why it's happen just now, even tho i put the extractor's on over a year ago  . Excessive time on the limiter can cause abnormally high exhaust temps 
 Haven't driven it hard lately tho 
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jimny_timmy

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Joined: Fri May 13, 2011 1:56 am Posts: 2326
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 Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:04 pm |
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I'm gonna make a heat shield soon but I wasnt sure on how to mount it...
Oh and without trying to hijack your thread monkey... What does everyone think about a bonnet scoop to keep things a bit cooler and add a little wank factor 
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
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jimny_timmy wrote: I'm gonna make a heat shield soon but I wasnt sure on how to mount it... Oh and without trying to hijack your thread monkey... What does everyone think about a bonnet scoop to keep things a bit cooler and add a little wank factor 
On modern cars aerodynamics is very important.
If you change the air flow to radiator/motor it could be worse not better.
Was a good solution on older cars,
but in modern cars, do a bit of research,
to make sure you do actually make things better.
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jimny_timmy

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Joined: Fri May 13, 2011 1:56 am Posts: 2326
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christover1 wrote: jimny_timmy wrote: I'm gonna make a heat shield soon but I wasnt sure on how to mount it... Oh and without trying to hijack your thread monkey... What does everyone think about a bonnet scoop to keep things a bit cooler and add a little wank factor  On modern cars aerodynamics is very important. If you change the air flow to radiator/motor it could be worse not better. Was a good solution on older cars, but in modern cars, do a bit of research, to make sure you do actually make things better.
Fair enough... Never thought it would cause dramas lol
Even with the heat shroud on my old extractors, a bit of a wheel up the beach and it got hot enough that the pole to hold the bonnet up burns your fingers lol
I was just lookin at cooling it down a little bit.
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
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There are vents you can buy from Auto shops, that sit flush into bonnet.
Less obtrusive to eyes you don't want seeing.

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jimny_timmy

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Joined: Fri May 13, 2011 1:56 am Posts: 2326
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That was similar to what I was thinking
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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i think those are illegal - from memory you cant have vents facing the windscreen in case fluids come out of the engine bay onto it...
doing a tape wrap on the pipes would do a pretty good job on its own, add a heat shield again and you'd be laughing i reckon.
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kemlar

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Joined: Sat Oct 09, 2010 12:04 am Posts: 168 Location: Sunshine Coast
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You can't even have them facing forward unless it is factory..
Something about in the event of a accident (running someone down) they could stick a limb in and take it off...
Also you are cutting up the bonnet and structually weakening it. (Won't crumble proberly in a smash too)
Subaru are covered under insurance and will cover you if you dismember anyone with your scoop... (So I have heard)
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
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Well i got a new over bottle on Saturday arvo...got suzistore to leave one out the front for  ...$25 for another one  !!! I was going to move the bottle forwards a bit, but room is a bit to tight...so i will just make up a heat shield for it...
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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I drove 30km in mine with no shield and melted the coating off my dual battery tray thats been there for 6 years so they must work a bit
try and make a shield that is 2 thinner sheets with an air gap in between, it will insulate better
Or Acl make a heat shield material you can cut and shape to size, seen it in Supercheap before
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
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royce wrote: I drove 30km in mine with no shield and melted the coating off my dual battery tray thats been there for 6 years so they must work a bit
try and make a shield that is 2 thinner sheets with an air gap in between, it will insulate better
Or Acl make a heat shield material you can cut and shape to size, seen it in Supercheap before
Thanks Royce!!
I will try roll the 2 shield's into the same shape as the bottle to help reflect the heat better to.
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royce

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make a shield for the exagerators, be less heat inflicted on everything
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
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^^ especially the paint on the bonnet... my bonnet's clear coat only started going after the 1.6 with extractors was put in, the clear started going directly above the pipes then spread over the whole bonnet.
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abclarke
Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:19 am Posts: 1966 Location: Couridjah
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Consider a hole lucky, i opened the bonnet this morning and my over flow bottles just vanished 
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
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haha sierra bottles do that... they jump off the mount on the rad and fall through the big gap underneath =) i nearly lost one years back in the middle of the sand dunes, luckily a mate was driving behind me and saw it!
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youda
Joined: Sat Oct 15, 2011 11:44 am Posts: 204 Location: Townsville
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wrapping the extractors in exhaust wrap will shorten the life of your extractors. i would stick to making a shield. as for the over flow bottle mine fell of this arvo when i went to put the lid back on =)
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abclarke
Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:19 am Posts: 1966 Location: Couridjah
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Ordering a new one then its gonna be cable ties galor holding that prick in! 
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alien
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i replaced mine with a new one and its not fallen off since. it was rather a tight fit to get on which was assuring.
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