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Post Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:06 am 
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Dunno if this has been covered lately, but tell me, is driving around with the hubs locked gunna cause any other issues other than extra fuel consuption? I'm only talking just local stuff- 5- 10 kays before getting to the dirt / sand.

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Post Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:10 am 
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dunno about just hubs locked and in 2wd but correct me if i'm wrong if you drive in high 4 or low 4 on the bitchumen it could cause axle wrap?

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Post Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:12 am 
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I would think it would just be unnecessary wear as your wheels would be driving everything back to the transfer.

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Post Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:15 am 
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Driving in 2wd with the hubs locked in will just increase fuel consumption.

Driving in 4wd on sealed surfaces will not cause axle wrap, it will cause 'wind-up' in the transfer.

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Post Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:20 am 
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Driving in 2wd with the hubs locked in will just increase fuel consumption.


Depending how well serviced your hubs are can also cause them to over-heat and do damage.

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Post Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:34 am 
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Driving in 2wd with the hubs locked in will just increase fuel consumption.


Depending how well serviced your hubs are can also cause them to over-heat and do damage.


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Ive forgotten to take the hubs out afew times. When i took the front axles out awhile ago they had black hot spots on the CVs where the balls are.

I dont think it would be a issue at low speeds but if your doing 80kph+ they would build up some heat.

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Post Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:36 am 
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mine haven't been unlocked for the last 15000km.

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Post Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:39 am 
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mine haven't been unlocked for the last 15000km.


Shep do they even have Roads where u live : :wink:

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Post Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:15 am 
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why do people with fulltime 4wd's convert them to part times with manual locking hubs...

To save on fuel
To save on Wear and tear :)

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Post Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:22 am 
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why do people with fulltime 4wd's convert them to part times with manual locking hubs...

To save on fuel
To save on Wear and tear :)


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Post Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:06 am 
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Dunno if this has been covered lately, but tell me, is driving around with the hubs locked gunna cause any other issues other than extra fuel consuption? I'm only talking just local stuff- 5- 10 kays before getting to the dirt / sand.

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Back to the original question, no it will not cuase any other issues if you are talking 5-10kms getting to dirt/sand.

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Post Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:07 am 
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shakes wrote:
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Driving in 2wd with the hubs locked in will just increase fuel consumption.


Depending how well serviced your hubs are can also cause them to over-heat and do damage.


Nah, hubs wont overheat regardless of if they are serviced or not, they have no moving parts when driving.

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Post Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:14 am 
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Those hot marks are on CVs from new, they heat treat the bell when they manufacture them, your hubs won't overheat, you'll just use slightly more fuel, you would be lucky to even measure the difference over 50 km.
Of course that's if there's grease in there.

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Post Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:20 am 
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Those hot marks are on CVs from new, they heat treat the bell when they manufacture them, your hubs won't overheat, you'll just use slightly more fuel, you would be lucky to even measure the difference over 50 km.
Of course that's if there's grease in there.


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Post Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:31 am 
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Exellent, thanks guys :) So all is good for short range stuff- I'm just a lazy bugger and would sooner flick them over at home when I'm about to leave rather than hop out off the warm car and do it once I hit the dirt or sand. :oops:

Would there be any advantages to leaving the hubs in (again, I'm talking shortish runs)? I mean, like move some parts around to keep the oil / greese spread etc?

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Post Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:42 am 
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I used to work for a certain government department who's policy was to NEVER unlock the hubs on their vehicles. they went for over 100,000km without any issue.

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Post Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:47 am 
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I always lock up hubs 10 or 20 k's before wheeling.
Helps warm up and lubricate front diff etc, before needing it off road.

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Post Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:15 am 
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Nah, hubs wont overheat regardless of if they are serviced or not, they have no moving parts when driving.


I have manual hubs on the GV and sometimes they get hot after city driving. Would this be because of the heat transfer from the brakes?

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Post Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:17 am 
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Nah, hubs wont overheat regardless of if they are serviced or not, they have no moving parts when driving.


I have manual hubs on the GV and sometimes they get hot after city driving. Would this be because of the heat transfer from the brakes?


Most likely, as well as wheel bearing heat.

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Post Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:22 am 
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Nah, hubs wont overheat regardless of if they are serviced or not, they have no moving parts when driving.


I have manual hubs on the GV and sometimes they get hot after city driving. Would this be because of the heat transfer from the brakes?


Most likely, as well as wheel bearing heat.


Hmmm... My house is only a few k's off the M1 and most times after a highway stint, the hubs are cool when I pull into the driveway.

If I did have a wheel bearing problem, wouldn't the hubs be warm/hot all the time?

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Nah, hubs wont overheat regardless of if they are serviced or not, they have no moving parts when driving.


I have manual hubs on the GV and sometimes they get hot after city driving. Would this be because of the heat transfer from the brakes?


Most likely, as well as wheel bearing heat.


Hmmm... My house is only a few k's off the M1 and most times after a highway stint, the hubs are cool when I pull into the driveway.

If I did have a wheel bearing problem, wouldn't the hubs be warm/hot all the time?


Yes. I should of just said that wheel bearings will generate some heat and will feel warm not hot after a while.

As you say city driving, the brakes will probably be your answer to the heat

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Post Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:34 am 
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Nah, hubs wont overheat regardless of if they are serviced or not, they have no moving parts when driving.


I have manual hubs on the GV and sometimes they get hot after city driving. Would this be because of the heat transfer from the brakes?


Most likely, as well as wheel bearing heat.


Hmmm... My house is only a few k's off the M1 and most times after a highway stint, the hubs are cool when I pull into the driveway.

If I did have a wheel bearing problem, wouldn't the hubs be warm/hot all the time?


Yes. I should of just said that wheel bearings will generate some heat and will feel warm not hot after a while.

As you say city driving, the brakes will probably be your answer to the heat


I'll keep and eye on it anyway. Cheers

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Post Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:26 am 
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Nah, hubs wont overheat regardless of if they are serviced or not, they have no moving parts when driving.


I have manual hubs on the GV and sometimes they get hot after city driving. Would this be because of the heat transfer from the brakes?


Most likely, as well as wheel bearing heat.


Hmmm... My house is only a few k's off the M1 and most times after a highway stint, the hubs are cool when I pull into the driveway.

If I did have a wheel bearing problem, wouldn't the hubs be warm/hot all the time?


Yes. I should of just said that wheel bearings will generate some heat and will feel warm not hot after a while.

As you say city driving, the brakes will probably be your answer to the heat


How hot are we talking about? Too hot to touch?

I've had my wheel bearings replaced a few months ago and FWH were serviced but the hubs still get quite warm after an hour or so of city driving.

I've done the jack up the car, grab the tyre at 6 & 12 o'clock and give it a wiggle and there was no play.

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Post Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:59 am 
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sorry to hi-jack this thread but what's peoples opinions on hubs unlocked and transfer in 4 Low to effectively have 2 Low. I mean just to drive a few metres.

PS I know there is twin stick set ups and that you can also remove detent ball. just curious.

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Post Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:02 am 
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sorry to hi-jack this thread but what's peoples opinions on hubs unlocked and transfer in 4 Low to effectively have 2 Low. I mean just to drive a few metres.

PS I know there is twin stick set ups and that you can also remove detent ball. just curious.


No problem. I do it all the time.

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Post Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:49 am 
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So how does this change if you have a lock rite in the front? Will locked hubs be too much wind on the diff then?

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Post Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:57 am 
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So how does this change if you have a lock rite in the front? Will locked hubs be too much wind on the diff then?


When they not under power, they unlock very easily.
Tho I imagine steering on greasey stuff could be an issue,
because it would stay locked.

I drive my vit in 4wd without hubs locked,
once a month,
at low speeds,
to keep front diff oiled well.
But it isn't recommended by Suzuki.

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Post Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:53 am 
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I meant by driving with hubs locked in having a locked front.

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Post Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:01 am 
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I meant by driving with hubs locked in having a locked front.


I would not recommend that on road in 4wd.

In 2wd with my hubs locked it is fine at lower/medium speeds,
but its a bit unpredictable at high speeds.
But doesn't get any wind up probs.

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Post Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:48 am 
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Ok. So I meant 2wd hubs locked in. With a locker will this cause problems
Wind up?

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