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PowerHouse
Joined: Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 52 Location: Brisbane
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hey guys,
just curious as is there a way i can run a standard 1.6 efi computer to run a turbo setup?
or would i have to buy a aftermarket? If i could set the original computer up i would rather do that so i can get it running and get an aftermarket later down the track, but i have been told they wont work with boost, well could i hook up a map sensor or do they have a map sensor??
ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED
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Damo

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Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4661 Location: Brisbane
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PowerHouse wrote: hey guys, just curious as is there a way i can run a standard 1.6 efi computer to run a turbo setup? or would i have to buy a aftermarket? If i could set the original computer up i would rather do that so i can get it running and get an aftermarket later down the track, but i have been told they wont work with boost, well could i hook up a map sensor or do they have a map sensor??
ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED
I'm pretty sure the 16 valve 1.6 ECU will handle low boost but I haven't tried that myself. If you do go that way I'd get a wide band O2 sensor so you can keep an eye on your air/fuel ratio.
All the 16 valve G16 I have seen have an air flow meter. All the throttle body injected G16 I have seen have had a MAP sensor.
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
Vehicle: Awesome!!
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You could probably get away with low boost by 'tricking' the ecu through the sensors such as the air and water temps to run slightly richer, and if your have a dissy you could manually retard the timing (assuming the computer pick up is inside it). Apart from that there is not alot you can really do with a stock ecu and the fuel maps are set internally. Using a boost referenced MAP sensor ie 2 bar will not work with the ecu as it will give its maximum output under boost compared to the std sensor where its maximum output would at WOT no boost (and max fuel according to the internal maps).
Best bet would be to use a rising rate fuel regulator as well as retarding your timing.
Dan
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PowerHouse
Joined: Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 52 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:31 pm |
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i have a vl fuel pump which pushes at 145psi i think and a fuel regulator and boost controller etc. i only want to run low bost i have been told they can handle about 8psi standard, i wanna run maybe 4-5. but i wanna dont want to spend millions on a computer
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tails83
Joined: Tue May 20, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 65 Location: Brisbane
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i'm drinking again lol, jsut tune it by ear, don't woory bout retading timing just stick to 5 degs, if you have a boost controller set it to 3psi, take it for a drive at WOT, if it don't ping up the boost to 4 psi and keep going till u heard it pinging, same as rattling a tin of marbles lol.
i tuend my old VL turbo this way, 18psi worked great on stock motor and huge front mount, i used to drop a huge dose and fry tyres through 3rd at 100. then motor didn't work ne more hehehe!!!
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PowerHouse
Joined: Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 52 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:50 am |
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id prefer to keep the engine alive for alittle while. wen its done and im on club runs ppl will get sik of me as il just keep reving it to hear the waaaa paasssshhhhhh,over and over lol
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Bruce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4003 Location: Brisbane
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JUst leave it stock. Zooks go well as they are in the bush. They are not meant to doof doof fast crap.
Crawler gears are the way to go 
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mrw82

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Joined: Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 1350 Location: stuck in a hole. not off road, just deception bay.
Vehicle: snotbox, 84 LWB sierra 1 litre
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just cos you're a bit slow bruce doesn't mean everyone else has to be.
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Damo

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Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4661 Location: Brisbane
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mrw82 wrote: just cos you're a bit slow bruce doesn't mean everyone else has to be.
That's a bit rich coming from the 1 litre driver 
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PowerHouse
Joined: Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 52 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:17 am |
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WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA PAAASSSHHHHHHHH
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Bruce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4003 Location: Brisbane
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PowerHouse wrote: WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA PAAASSSHHHHHHHH
 in a zook  can''t see the reason 
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
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tails83 wrote: i'm drinking again lol, jsut tune it by ear, don't woory bout retading timing just stick to 5 degs, if you have a boost controller set it to 3psi, take it for a drive at WOT, if it don't ping up the boost to 4 psi and keep going till u heard it pinging, same as rattling a tin of marbles lol.
i tuend my old VL turbo this way, 18psi worked great on stock motor and huge front mount, i used to drop a huge dose and fry tyres through 3rd at 100. then motor didn't work ne more hehehe!!!
Not surprised 
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Damo

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Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4661 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:44 pm |
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PowerHouse, less talk more turbos. Post pics of skids when finished.
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Scrawny

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Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
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oooo.... skids!! Lots of smoke too!! And pics of the blown diff.....
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Bruce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4003 Location: Brisbane
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And a piston out the side.  ............
Good luck if you ever get this done mate.
Still don't see the reason for it for a little zook but that's just me. 
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Scrawny

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Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
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Bruce wrote: Still don't see the reason for it for a little zook but that's just me. 
Bah!!! You're getting too old now Bruce 
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just_cruizin

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Joined: Sun Jun 25, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 2867 Location: here
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PowerHouse wrote: WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA PAAASSSHHHHHHHH
Sounds like Bruce in the morning.
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PowerHouse
Joined: Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 52 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:23 pm |
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I WILL POST PICS OF SKIDS WEN DONE.. LOL
In all seriousness im only making it turbo as i dont see many turbo sierras
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Mike

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Joined: Tue May 06, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2236 Location: Under Down Under
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Damo

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Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4661 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:43 pm |
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BTW, have you got a manifold, turbo etc etc?
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PowerHouse
Joined: Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 52 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:33 pm |
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Damo wrote: BTW, have you got a manifold, turbo etc etc?
got everything but i need a newmanifold
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Damo

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Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4661 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:37 pm |
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PowerHouse wrote: Damo wrote: BTW, have you got a manifold, turbo etc etc? got everything but i need a newmanifold
How come you need a new manifold? What exactly do you have?
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PowerHouse
Joined: Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 52 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:12 pm |
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Damo wrote: PowerHouse wrote: Damo wrote: BTW, have you got a manifold, turbo etc etc? got everything but i need a newmanifold How come you need a new manifold? What exactly do you have?
manifold was designed for vitara engine bay, so i need to get a new one, all hoses, oil lines, turbo t28 air lines, BOV
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Damo

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Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4661 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:45 pm |
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PowerHouse wrote: Damo wrote: PowerHouse wrote: Damo wrote: BTW, have you got a manifold, turbo etc etc? got everything but i need a newmanifold How come you need a new manifold? What exactly do you have? manifold was designed for vitara engine bay, so i need to get a new one, all hoses, oil lines, turbo t28 air lines, BOV
OK, its a bummer that the manifold doesnt suit the Sierra. What does it rub on?
16v or 8v by the way?
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PowerHouse
Joined: Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 52 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 12:25 am |
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16v multipoint injection. hits engine mount and guard need it up higher
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PowerHouse
Joined: Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 52 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:56 am |
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