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Che

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Joined: Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2401 Location: Perth
Vehicle: LPG 1.6 Sierra
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 Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:32 am |
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I'm gonna buy this tidy soft top Sierra this arvo unless someone beats me to it... only one thing it's got a dead motor.
What tools do I need to do an engine swap out from Sierra A to Sierra B? And what sort of time frame to get it done? I've never done an engine swap before, but I figure a Sierra is gonna be the easiest car to learn on.
If doing it myself sounds like a dumb idea let me know too - i'm not exactly Johnny Mechanic, but palming it off i'll never learn for myself.
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DAZOOK
Joined: Thu Jan 28, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 245 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Lwb Sierra
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You will need 14, 12, 10mm sockets. 12 and 10mm ring spanners, a few assorted screw drivers, engine crane, some rope and a little bit of time, easy job 
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
Vehicle: G13BB Jimny
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 Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 2:09 am |
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Yeah its easy as. Just need socket set and spanners, crane patience cos its gets annoying sometimes.
I did my swap in 50mins in a hurry, so should easily be a saturday job.
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steve

I live here!
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 7681 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 75 Cruiser
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 Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 2:13 am |
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I usually like to leave the gearbox attached the motor and pull the whole lot out together. Same with putting it in. Block up the gearbox lever holes so the oil doesn't pour everywhere though because it will be on a big angle when taking it out.
Possibly label the wiring harness ends, incase you're not sure. The NT and WT harnesses have different plugs in places.
ooo lots of little tips i can't remember.
Should be all do-able by a newbie in one weekend.
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sogone

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Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:29 am Posts: 2070 Location: Darwin
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Answer me this. Does the gearbox need to be drained before ya pull the jack shaft out from behind it, I've had to do it in my rx7 and my sr20 Silvia and rb25 skyline. Is the rear sealed with the shaft?
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
Vehicle: G13BB Jimny
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Its sealed with the shaft yep. I Actually drained the gearbox through the back.
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Che

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Joined: Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2401 Location: Perth
Vehicle: LPG 1.6 Sierra
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 Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 2:32 am |
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I guess i'll have to get a new exhaust manifold gasket - any other gaskets needed for the job?
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
Vehicle: G13BB Jimny
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 Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 2:44 am |
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Do your rear main, and if you want clutch since its all out anyway.
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steve

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 7681 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 75 Cruiser
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 Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 2:48 am |
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replacing stuff? that's getting a bit fancy, you can't be Suzuki owners!
... i just use what i have

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Che

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Joined: Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2401 Location: Perth
Vehicle: LPG 1.6 Sierra
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My clutch is only three months old, engine about 10K old. I think i'll do what Steve said and keep the engine/gearbox all together. The easier the better.
Sweet - engine crane = $44 a day, and got all the sockets and spanners listed above. Lets hope I don't find a way to arse it up 
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sogone

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Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:29 am Posts: 2070 Location: Darwin
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steve wrote: I usually like to leave the gearbox attached the motor and pull the whole lot out together. Same with putting it in. Block up the gearbox lever holes so the oil doesn't pour everywhere though because it will be on a big angle when taking it out.
Possibly label the wiring harness ends, incase you're not sure. The NT and WT harnesses have different plugs in places.
ooo lots of little tips i can't remember.
Should be all do-able by a newbie in one weekend.
Steve.
Do you mean to say block up the top incase it manages to leak residual oil after you've dumped the oil? I'm trying to figure out if the rear seal on the gearbox need the jack shaft to keep the oil in. Or if it's sealed without it.
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
Vehicle: G13BB Jimny
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steve wrote: replacing stuff? that's getting a bit fancy, you can't be Suzuki owners! ... i just use what i have 
 I did my clutch because it was rooted after 31's and standard gearing. and rear main cos it was 10bucks and seeping. reused my inlet and exhaust gaskets but 
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steve

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 7681 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 75 Cruiser
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 Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 4:01 am |
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Maybe my oil levels are low, but, the oil doesn't come out the shaft seal until it's on an angle.
So, don't even undo the jack shaft from the transfer case, it will slide out of the gearbox when you move the gearbox forward. Once the engine/gearbox is ready to move, just pull it all up and to the front. Put a oil tray under the car.
Same when you put it back in, line the shaft in the gearbox and slide it back.
PS. There's always one wire or cable that you forget to undo 
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
Vehicle: G13BB Jimny
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 Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 4:38 am |
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Like the dizzy? earth wire on the gearbox. had me stumped for ages haha.
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ROAR99

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Joined: Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:31 am Posts: 190 Location: brisbane
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i might have missed something but ,,
it has a 1.6 in it, not a sierra engine , has only got blown head gasket and add sais has papers to say head is o.k
why not just throw a new head gasket on and away u go ??
watch u dont snap the dizzy on the firewall when removing engine
carefully push a rag into the rear g,box seal with a small screwdriver so
oil wont piss out on angle  works for autos so i guess manuals the same
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sideways

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Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:53 pm Posts: 5936 Location: Northcliffe, W.A.
Vehicle: LJs, Sierra, Jimny, Swift.
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ROAR99 wrote: i might have missed something but ,, it has a 1.6 in it, not a sierra engine , has only got blown head gasket and add sais has papers to say head is o.k why not just throw a new head gasket on and away u go ?? watch u dont snap the dizzy on the firewall when removing engine carefully push a rag into the rear g,box seal with a small screwdriver so oil wont piss out on angle  works for autos so i guess manuals the same
I believe his other car has a freshly rebuilt 1.6 in it. 
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sogone

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Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:29 am Posts: 2070 Location: Darwin
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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just cable tie the jackshaft to the gearbox and yank the whole engine and box out together its easy as poo
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Che

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Joined: Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2401 Location: Perth
Vehicle: LPG 1.6 Sierra
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 Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:54 am |
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Woohoo - going to pick it up now
Time to dust off paint tin and grab a roller 
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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 Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:37 am |
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mate i have an engine crane you can borrow if ya like, let me know. ill give you a hand with it if ya need to
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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all this talk and we've got no pics of the new rig cos the ad's been removed... hmpf.
hey you can always rebuild the engine in the new one and sell that to recoup some costs too... might not fetch much but anythings better than nothing =)
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Che

az supporter
Joined: Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2401 Location: Perth
Vehicle: LPG 1.6 Sierra
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 Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:18 am |
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Bargain - cost me $2000 in the end. The plan is to make one super Sierra, not going to muck around putting together a spares car, the hard top will be free to a good home once I scab what I want off it.
There's no comparison with an A/B drive - my hardtop's running gear is 1000% more lively, it has to come into the new project. The soft top has an A1 body and chassis, so that's for keeps too. Win win.
No pics? Here's one before the rain came. On the piss now so no progress to be made tonight

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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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nice dude =) glad you finally found your bargain zuk!
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