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RUN.10W
Joined: Mon Sep 20, 2010 7:17 am Posts: 211 Location: sydney
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Hey guys I have a sj80 (yes I'm one of them coily owners) my fuel gauge only reads a quarter all day everyday day, my tank has copped a hiding and the gauge won't read past quarter, I'm just wondering if I leafy tank will fit in and if the sender unit will be the same as it sucks not having a fuel gauge.
Cheers for any help.
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joel
Joined: Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2191 Location: Dirranbandi
Vehicle: Sj70 tintop
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 Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 3:31 am |
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english? lol
when the gauge syas "empty'is it empty?
thats all that really matters, if you fill it with 40 litres you know its full, as long as it lets you know its low is all that matters.
pretty sure any sierra tank will fit.
and throw a new sender in it when you put a new tank in and that should sort out the drama.
you can fiddle with the old sender, but a new one cost fark all so i would just do that, unless the second hand tank you get has decent sender in it.
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joel
Joined: Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2191 Location: Dirranbandi
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 Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 3:33 am |
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i should elaborate, any wide track tank will fit.
narrow track wont, even though a nt tank is better as it has a bung in the bottom of it.
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RUN.10W
Joined: Mon Sep 20, 2010 7:17 am Posts: 211 Location: sydney
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 Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 3:42 am |
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Yeah cheers, it reads quarter even when empty so I should have elaborated on that. Thanks will look for a wide track tank and sender
_________________ 96 coily, lifted, locked,geared, 33's.
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joel
Joined: Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2191 Location: Dirranbandi
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 Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 3:51 am |
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just look for a whole w/t tank, if yours has copped a flogging, wont cost to much.
and just rely on your trip odometer till than, fill up every 290-300km.
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RUN.10W
Joined: Mon Sep 20, 2010 7:17 am Posts: 211 Location: sydney
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 Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 4:13 am |
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Yea sweet cheers mate
_________________ 96 coily, lifted, locked,geared, 33's.
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Damo

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Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4661 Location: Brisbane
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RUN.10W
Joined: Mon Sep 20, 2010 7:17 am Posts: 211 Location: sydney
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 Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 7:03 am |
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Thanks for that, need to replace my tank anyway so will check that when I get a new tank as well. Cheers
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31zook
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9242 Location: maito
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 Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 7:21 am |
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joel wrote: i should elaborate, any wide track tank will fit. narrow track wont, even though a nt tank is better as it has a bung in the bottom of it.
really? is this a coily thing, cause my swb WT fitted in my NT lwb....
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joel
Joined: Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2191 Location: Dirranbandi
Vehicle: Sj70 tintop
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 Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 7:28 am |
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31zook wrote: joel wrote: i should elaborate, any wide track tank will fit. narrow track wont, even though a nt tank is better as it has a bung in the bottom of it. really? is this a coily thing, cause my swb WT fitted in my NT lwb....
really? thought the mounts would have been different, but an nt tank is better as it has a bung so you can drain it and clean the tank out without having to drop it.
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want33s

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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8134 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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NT tank is identical to WT tank except for the NT bung as mentioned and NT has one less small hose fitting on top.
Senders are identical and I believe coily is same.
I just sold a coily tank I should have checked the sender unit first...
I run an NT tank in my WT and it was only a matter of a T piece to add the extra hose.
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RUN.10W
Joined: Mon Sep 20, 2010 7:17 am Posts: 211 Location: sydney
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yeah i need to chase a tank as well mine really has seen better days, bluesuzy gave me one though had a mate need a tank so gave it to him as my car was still off the road now that its back on road i realized how bad mine really is. cheers for all the hekp will try and chase a good wide track tank
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
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 Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:58 am |
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i have a sender. Unsure if ok. There is a writeup on how to fix them somewhere on here. (on my phone atm sorry)
Tank, find another coily tank. Good for efi later. Is yours efi now? Cant remenber.
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RUN.10W
Joined: Mon Sep 20, 2010 7:17 am Posts: 211 Location: sydney
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 Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:29 am |
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Nah mate not efi yet, keeping an eye out for a motor but not to fazed yet. Yeah have been trying to find a coily tank, bit harder then I thought
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
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I have my old wt tank here. Coupling is rusted on, but otherwise undented. Want another tank? 
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RUN.10W
Joined: Mon Sep 20, 2010 7:17 am Posts: 211 Location: sydney
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Haha I may have sourced one though I will speak to you anyway during the week about helping on your car 
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sogone

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Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:29 am Posts: 2070 Location: Darwin
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 Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 9:34 am |
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joel wrote: english? lol when the gauge syas "empty'is it empty? thats all that really matters, if you fill it with 40 litres you know its full, as long as it lets you know its low is all that matters. pretty sure any sierra tank will fit. and throw a new sender in it when you put a new tank in and that should sort out the drama. you can fiddle with the old sender, but a new one cost fark all so i would just do that, unless the second hand tank you get has decent sender in it.
Disagree.
Having a correct fuel gauge is paramount to knowing the distances you have left to the nearest fuel station. Also in an efi application knowing you stills have fuel in ya tank means ya won't run ya fuel pump dry. Looking at how many k's ya have left is worthless on a long trail where ya car uses a lot more fuel then distance traveled on ya odometer.
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joel
Joined: Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2191 Location: Dirranbandi
Vehicle: Sj70 tintop
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sogone wrote: joel wrote: english? lol when the gauge syas "empty'is it empty? thats all that really matters, if you fill it with 40 litres you know its full, as long as it lets you know its low is all that matters. pretty sure any sierra tank will fit. and throw a new sender in it when you put a new tank in and that should sort out the drama. you can fiddle with the old sender, but a new one cost fark all so i would just do that, unless the second hand tank you get has decent sender in it. Disagree. Having a correct fuel gauge is paramount to knowing the distances you have left to the nearest fuel station. Also in an efi application knowing you stills have fuel in ya tank means ya won't run ya fuel pump dry. Looking at how many k's ya have left is worthless on a long trail where ya car uses a lot more fuel then distance traveled on ya odometer.
anyone with basic math skill can work it out, hardcore offroad add 20% fuel usage, if in doubt of mathmatical ability, throw in a gerry, not many places any of us are more than 150km from the nearest fuel stop.
look how far we made it on the red lilly adventure when i blew 4 fuses thus no dash instruments.
no one should run out of fuel on any normal trip, thats just piss poor planning that no amount of gauges will fix.
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sogone

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Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:29 am Posts: 2070 Location: Darwin
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20% specifically? Ya get stuck a little bit more then usual, ya need high revs, it pisses down rain. Ya 80% throttle for an hour trying to get out of a very hard and now wet section of 20km track. It's gonna fuck ya 20% in the bum. A working fuel gauge is paramount. Especially with larger tyres that destroys it even more.
Red lily was relatively easy with constant revs and a few browning moments.
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joel
Joined: Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2191 Location: Dirranbandi
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 Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 10:05 am |
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sogone wrote: 20% specifically? Ya get stuck a little bit more then usual, ya need high revs, it pisses down rain. Ya 80% throttle for an hour trying to get out of a very hard and now wet section of 20km track. It's gonna fuck ya 20% in the bum. A working fuel gauge is paramount. Especially with larger tyres that destroys it even more.
Red lily was relatively easy with constant revs and a few browning moments.
red lilly was 2 hrs 30 minutes first and second gear lowrange, pissing down rain, slipping high revs in mud, towing a fully laiden boat.
ya piss pot forgetful head.
like i said, prior preperation prevents piss poor performance. i can work out exactly how much fuel i need and will use in every situation and can plan accordingly, thus the 80liter tank and the 2x20 litre gerries i have on the vehicle at all times. unless its a fuel gauge that tells you how many litres average you are using per 100km and how many kms you have left, its already a secondry gauge, secondry to what your calculations and intiment knowledge of your vehicles fuel usuage under all conditions should be, that should be the priority gauge.
considering this bloke lives in sydney, i doubt its his biggest concern.
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sogone

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Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:29 am Posts: 2070 Location: Darwin
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 Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 10:18 am |
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You are just a fuel tank ninja. I still disagree. Knowing ya quantity on a working Correctly fuel gauge still gives ya more accuracy over how many k's have left pending the situation your in. Ps. I remember. It wasn't slippery till it started raining @ red lily 
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joel
Joined: Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2191 Location: Dirranbandi
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 Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 10:24 am |
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sogone wrote: You are just a fuel tank ninja. I still disagree. Knowing ya quantity on a working Correctly fuel gauge still gives ya more accuracy over how many k's have left pending the situation your in. Ps. I remember. It wasn't slippery till it started raining @ red lily 
what about the 12 or so km of wet mud sludge that it pinged threw straight after jim jim road turn off well before it started raining that night?
and the above scenario how will a gauge help you out? go get more fuel thatya havent packed while you get out of a bog? if its hasnt been prepared for the car shouldnt have left the driveway if it had the potential to get that epic, especailly up here at this time of year.
advising him to use his odometer probably isnt sound advice, but if you know your car its all good in the hood.
35000 km since june, a lot of that offraod on isolated long journey, i have it down to an art. 
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sogone

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Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:29 am Posts: 2070 Location: Darwin
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Not everyone has sex with their car Joel. Perhaps he doesn't know it like you know your lady.
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atari4x4

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not sure how this got to fuel economy, but anyway.
sogone, i think i'm about to have sex with my car
i know my max & min fuel usage figures & know where the 60L used mark is on my guage (66L tank) it's handy to have, the only time i've ever run out of fuel, is chasing the needle way past the middle point on the E & it stopped cause i parked it on a funny angle..
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sogone

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Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:29 am Posts: 2070 Location: Darwin
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Yeah. But I agree 'Tari. Ya need a gauge that reads true so you can work out ya current fuel economy to situation.
But I better start agreeing with Joel or he won't let me play captain on his boat anymore 
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joel
Joined: Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2191 Location: Dirranbandi
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 Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 8:53 pm |
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^^ your now demoted to oar cleaner.
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