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swifty_ano
Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 4:17 am Posts: 1664 Location: Brisbane, QLD
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 Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 5:55 pm |
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Put my GV steel diff in last night. All looks the goods but when you try and drive it, its death.
Basically the car deicides to turn to the leftt. Once it starts turning that way you can get it back. It just fights against you. However, for a split second its fine.
Put the locker in and both wheels seem to engage.
There is also a rotational thump when your driving straight or turning.
My guess is CV as it doesn't seem like its sitting in the diff properly. Atari said there are issues with CV's popping out as they are about 5mm too long for the circlip to lock in.however this is doing it in 2wd and 4wd.
I need my car back ASAP 
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 7:52 pm |
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Did you fit the GV axle support bush in correctly?
That could drag and thump, if its in wrong.
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Brett

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Joined: Tue May 27, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1791 Location: Central coast NSW
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 Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 7:55 pm |
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You driving it on the road or dirt with the hub locks in?
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 7:58 pm |
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PS. My support bush was a bit squeaky and grabby till it bedded in.
And my locker took time to free up and bed in, too
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swifty_ano
Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 4:17 am Posts: 1664 Location: Brisbane, QLD
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 Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 10:22 pm |
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It's driven on dirt with both hubs locked and unlocked. Locker unlocked aswell.
I have to really fight it to turn right. But sometimes it does it fine.
Bush went in from the outside like you said chris so its all good.
CV slides all the way into the diff. It's like the outer CV is locking up
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Brett

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Joined: Tue May 27, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1791 Location: Central coast NSW
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 Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 10:56 pm |
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Sounds like your its your just your locker or your diff has been set up wrong
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 10:57 pm |
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did you check the diff ratio before sending it all off to be built?
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swifty_ano
Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 4:17 am Posts: 1664 Location: Brisbane, QLD
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 Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:53 am |
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But the thing is its playing up without hubs locked. It's on dry steer too. Not just whilst driving. It feels kind of like when I had a broken CV that was affecting ny steering but 50 times worse
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:59 am |
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bent steering/idler arm bracket
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ninjamoses

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Joined: Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 1787 Location: Butler, WA
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Your hubs definitely unlocking properly? Seems bloody strange for those kind of symptoms to happen without the hubs locked in.
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Brett

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Joined: Tue May 27, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1791 Location: Central coast NSW
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atari4x4 wrote: did you check the diff ratio before sending it all off to be built?
Can't be that stupid hopefully
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swifty_ano
Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 4:17 am Posts: 1664 Location: Brisbane, QLD
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 Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:51 am |
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Ok. No I have stopped sooking. I took it for a decent drive.
Works fine with hubs unlocked. Works fine with hubs locked. But with locker in its a shit storm. I heard front lockers ruin your steering but this seems crazy
Mind you this was tested on road.
Sorry for bot testing properly.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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so you're driving around in 4wd with the locker in on the tarmac?
yes the front locker will make it hard to steer
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swifty_ano
Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 4:17 am Posts: 1664 Location: Brisbane, QLD
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Only 2wd with hubs locked
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swifty_ano
Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 4:17 am Posts: 1664 Location: Brisbane, QLD
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 Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:58 am |
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But egoism it be crazy hard and try and pull straight?
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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swifty_ano wrote: But egoism it be crazy hard and try and pull straight?
WTF is egoism 
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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swifty_ano wrote: Only 2wd with hubs locked
is that WITH the locker engaged?
if yes, it will behave like a welded diff.
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swifty_ano
Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 4:17 am Posts: 1664 Location: Brisbane, QLD
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 Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:07 am |
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atari4x4 wrote: swifty_ano wrote: Only 2wd with hubs locked is that WITH the locker engaged? if yes, it will behave like a welded diff.
Yes. This is true
Mind my ignorance. I am new to 4wd and have no idea about them
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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swifty_ano wrote: atari4x4 wrote: swifty_ano wrote: Only 2wd with hubs locked is that WITH the locker engaged? if yes, it will behave like a welded diff. Yes. This is true Mind my ignorance. I am new to 4wd and have no idea about them
sounds like it's functioning as per normal, i only use mine when i know i'll be lifting the front wheels.
now can you tell me what "egoism" is.
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swifty_ano
Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 4:17 am Posts: 1664 Location: Brisbane, QLD
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 Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 8:09 am |
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Egoism is the result of a noob being frustrated and speed typing trying to figure out his car.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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 Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 8:11 am |
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hehehe, what was it you were trying to type...
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 8:13 am |
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check your tyre pressures
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swifty_ano
Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 4:17 am Posts: 1664 Location: Brisbane, QLD
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 Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:40 am |
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atari4x4 wrote: hehehe, what was it you were trying to type...
No idea 
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
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From what you have described is just how a GV/Vit handels when the front diff is locked. Just get over it and enjoy the added ability of having a front locker.
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swifty_ano
Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 4:17 am Posts: 1664 Location: Brisbane, QLD
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 Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 1:14 am |
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Built4thrashing wrote: From what you have described is just how a GV/Vit handels when the front diff is locked. Just get over it and enjoy the added ability of having a front locker.
Phewww! The hole point of this thread was because i for my car out of the shed. Had been playing with the locker not realising id left it on and had a panic attack because it wouldn't steer.
Being new. To 4x4ing, I had no idea about lockers
She drives ok except when I turn left it sounds like my disc brakes are rubbing? Fine when o turn right
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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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swifty_ano wrote: She drives ok except when I turn left it sounds like my disc brakes are rubbing? Fine when o turn right
wheel bearings!.....maybe u would check for play.
p.s why did you go front locker? or was it only done because the diff was out anyways?
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swifty_ano
Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 4:17 am Posts: 1664 Location: Brisbane, QLD
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 Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 6:50 am |
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shandy92 wrote: swifty_ano wrote: She drives ok except when I turn left it sounds like my disc brakes are rubbing? Fine when o turn right wheel bearings!.....maybe u would check for play. p.s why did you go front locker? or was it only done because the diff was out anyways?
Diff was out and needed to be pulled apart anyway. so I got it done at the same time.
With the wheel bearing lock nut thingo (ring with holes in it) is it possible that I have over tightened it.
It was fine before I pulled it apart.
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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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swifty_ano wrote: shandy92 wrote: swifty_ano wrote: She drives ok except when I turn left it sounds like my disc brakes are rubbing? Fine when o turn right wheel bearings!.....maybe u would check for play. p.s why did you go front locker? or was it only done because the diff was out anyways? Diff was out and needed to be pulled apart anyway. so I got it done at the same time. With the wheel bearing lock nut thingo (ring with holes in it) is it possible that I have over tightened it. It was fine before I pulled it apart.
not that i am aware of, but i could be wrong. when i did mine i did them as tight as i could but i was using the punch and hammer method 
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swifty_ano
Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 4:17 am Posts: 1664 Location: Brisbane, QLD
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 Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 1:52 am |
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shandy92 wrote: swifty_ano wrote: shandy92 wrote: swifty_ano wrote: She drives ok except when I turn left it sounds like my disc brakes are rubbing? Fine when o turn right wheel bearings!.....maybe u would check for play. p.s why did you go front locker? or was it only done because the diff was out anyways? Diff was out and needed to be pulled apart anyway. so I got it done at the same time. With the wheel bearing lock nut thingo (ring with holes in it) is it possible that I have over tightened it. It was fine before I pulled it apart. not that i am aware of, but i could be wrong. when i did mine i did them as tight as i could but i was using the punch and hammer method 
Turns out I didn't tighten them up. Note to self, don't rush things as you forget things lol
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