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Post Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 6:36 pm 
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Hey guys this is the first time I've taken my Jimny offload and I'm heading to double island this weekend. I'll obviously take it through the wash after but is there any must dos for prep eg oil somewhere?

I won't be taking it in the water or anything just 2 days of beach cruising.

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Post Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 6:48 pm 
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FWIT I never bother applying anything before hand. Just pay an extra bit of attention when cleaning it off. I use a bi-carb/water solution sprayed to the underside of the car, this neutralizes the salt (and is very cheap) let it sit for a couple of minute and hose off 8)

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Post Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:09 pm 
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Get a snatch strap (get the one with the lowest rating you can find) and if you have time,fit(or get fitted) some recovery points. An air compressor is a good idea but not absolutely necesary.

If it's running a bit hot the get your cooling system sorted, beaches are fanstasic at making cars overheat.

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Post Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:11 pm 
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x 2 to what sideways said. My comment is on the basis you don't drown the thing in salt water either :wink:

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Post Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:31 pm 
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let ya tyres pressures down also,

mabey 18-22psi which ever is more comfortable.

And dont turn sharp, at speed on the beach lol.

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Post Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:46 pm 
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let ya tyres pressures down also,

mabey 18-22psi which ever is more comfortable.


What do you mean down to??? Aren't you running them at 22psi or there abouts now anyway??

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Post Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:48 pm 
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i was just thinking same thing rusho, my 215/75/15 km2's are sitting at 20 on the tarmac right now!

i was sitting around 10 psi last beach run, still barely bagged up. had around 15 for corrugated dirt/general purpose.

but yes +1 for technique and steering obviously.

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Post Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:51 pm 
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let ya tyres pressures down also,

mabey 18-22psi which ever is more comfortable.

And dont turn sharp, at speed on the beach lol.


They only reccomend 24psi on the tyre placard...

I ran my 235s at 15psi while I was just up there..

x2 to rusho and sideways.

I also flush chassis etc when I get home. Washed it 2 times already and will wash it again when I get it back and blast everything once more.

I also spray sometging in the chassis and on the nuts and bolts and anywhere I think will need it.
using a wd spray this time, but have use inox, lanox, fish oil, cavity way, super pentrant.

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Post Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:55 pm 
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no im running 30psi in the front and 28psi in the rear

have run them lower before and got uneven wear this pressure i get nice even flat wear across the tyre. 235's


what!!! 20psi man your tyres would be loud as on the road??? being a muddy also wont hlp for you wear ha ha ha

do Guys check the wear of your tyres??? or are you just going for comfort cause u now have soft tyres.....

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Post Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:01 pm 
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zuk85 wrote:
let ya tyres pressures down also,

mabey 18-22psi which ever is more comfortable.

And dont turn sharp, at speed on the beach lol.


They only reccomend 24psi on the tyre placard...

I ran my 235s at 15psi while I was just up there..

x2 to rusho and sideways.

I also flush chassis etc when I get home. Washed it 2 times already and will wash it again when I get it back and blast everything once more.

I also spray sometging in the chassis and on the nuts and bolts and anywhere I think will need it.
using a wd spray this time, but have use inox, lanox, fish oil, cavity way, super pentrant.


But the tyre placard, is for the standard standard tyre sizes that can be used" which is using the factory tryes supplied"

its not for aftermarket tyres which have totally different internal makings and different compounds in the tyre itself..........

and I have been running this setup for the past 4 years and no problems.... smooth on road and good ofroad. and still no uneven wear on tyres...

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Post Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:09 pm 
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Lets not turn this into another freaking tyre pressure thread, even though we all know the people going on about higher than stock pressures are wrong

Make sure the paint is clean and maybe even waxed before hand to help seal the salt out and you want underneath to be totally free of any mud dirt and oil that the salt can soak into, the underbody wash before hitting the beach is good for this

When you get home even if you use the wash afterwards get under with a hose (no need for any pressure here) and flood everywhere, inside the chassis rails through every hole you can access, above heat shields, inside wheel wheels (If you hose into the front guard from the door jam you can get in above the plastic there) to remove any remaining sand, which wont cause rust so much as wear things out faster

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Post Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:26 pm 
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i just stick a sprinkler under my car for about half hour. 15 mins at front, 15 mins at back...

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Post Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:29 pm 
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haha yeah cheers guys, yeah ive got staun deflators and have done a fair bit of 4x4 before including beach, just though i would see if there was any special jimny things to check on! staun preset their deflators to 18psi so I will give that a go and if it needs less I will drop it, not sure what my tyres are running as I just bought it but 22 seems frightfully low for a road tyre pressure setup. Anyway as said by royce lets not get off topic!

I have a 2" lift sitting there so will throw that in next week and introduce myself on the rigs of aus zookers page

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Post Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:32 pm 
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Lets not turn this into another freaking tyre pressure thread, even though we all know the people going on about higher than stock pressures are wrong


I was waiting for that! hehe :lol:

you're no fun Royce.

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Post Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 2:22 am 
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im not going to start it up again lol

I just wanna know why, u all think to ONLY run as u say 22psi......... what about loads and the likes.... "just seems narrow minded" see alot of them at work"

this jimny placecard says 23psi in FRONT and 26psi in REAR so go figure that......

can someone post pictures of their tyre wear with who has been running these 22psi pressure on road.

end of rant :P it is an endless topic because it changes with everyones car cause everyones driving styles and load carrying is all different.. if changes from complete stock

dont attack back :P lol just give me your explanation :D:D

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Post Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 2:42 am 
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can someone post pictures of their tyre wear with who has been running these 22psi pressure on road.

it is an endless topic because it changes with everyones car cause everyones driving styles and load carrying is all different.. if changes from complete stock



you just made your own request kinda pointless......

you know the information and the facts, make your own educated decision I say, your a big boy. If its not working for you, do something different.... Easy.

If you still want to see tread, drive down to Townsville and ill show you in person. need another AZ to go for a wheel with anyway.

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Post Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 2:45 am 
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zuk85 wrote:
im not going to start it up again lol

I just wanna know why, u all think to ONLY run as u say 22psi......... what about loads and the likes.... "just seems narrow minded" see alot of them at work"

this jimny placecard says 23psi in FRONT and 26psi in REAR so go figure that......

can someone post pictures of their tyre wear with who has been running these 22psi pressure on road.

end of rant :P it is an endless topic because it changes with everyones car cause everyones driving styles and load carrying is all different.. if changes from complete stock

dont attack back :P lol just give me your explanation :D:D


Go look at the max pressure and load rating on one of your tyres, chances are its over 900kg at 50psi or so.

You are a mechanic arent you? now go compare to a similar weight small car out in the workshop somewhere, the pressure might be about the same but the load rating will be half, so we are running tyres that 1 tyre can almost safely support the weight of our entire car (indeed most 31" tyres can and more) so we need less pressure in them to keep a decent contact with the road, jsut like with more weight you need to add more pressure.

Ill see if I can get a pic of one of my 40000km tyres later on, dead smooth bar some outer wear on teh fronts cause I have a swaybar and use it, I wore a set of 31" MTR's down to nothing on my sierra running 18psi, dead flat wear

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Post Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 3:08 am 
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Basic maths aside, Put 30PSI under each corner of a Jimny and it's a very harsh ride especially with the stock tyes. Annoys me that everytime my jimny goes near a garage I have to let the tyres back down again after the garage have pumped them all up again. My 215's start to sag a little between 20 -25PSI and the ride gets a hell of a lot less harsh, so that's where I keep mine. For beach work I'd expect to halve that would you say?


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Post Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 3:51 am 
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yep squibbs i run about 10 when i was booting around the tip.
(of australia that is...)

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Post Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 3:58 am 
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Ill see if I can get a pic of one of my 40000km tyres later on, dead smooth bar some outer wear on teh fronts cause I have a swaybar and use it, I wore a set of 31" MTR's down to nothing on my sierra running 18psi, dead flat wear

If people want to see this for themselves - all they have to do is dust some talcum powder or cement dust on a smooth concrete floor, then put 30+ PSI in their tyres and check how much tyre actually contacts the powder/dust. I found my coily with 31" trepadors unloaded needed about 15PSI to get the entire tread width to contact the floor. At 20PSI only about 1/3 the tread area was in contact with the ground!

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Post Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:17 am 
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FWIT I never bother applying anything before hand. Just pay an extra bit of attention when cleaning it off. I use a bi-carb/water solution sprayed to the underside of the car, this neutralizes the salt (and is very cheap) let it sit for a couple of minute and hose off 8)



Am I the only one that noticed this? :crazy:

Salt water is high pH of about 8-9pH anyway dude, so "neutralising" it with bi-carb (which is alkaline as well) is not going to work. If anything you're better of washing it with a water and lemon juice solution. But that said just use professional stuff like "salt away" if you're that pedantic.

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Post Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 5:51 am 
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no im running 30psi in the front and 28psi in the rear

have run them lower before and got uneven wear this pressure i get nice even flat wear across the tyre. 235's


what!!! 20psi man your tyres would be loud as on the road??? being a muddy also wont hlp for you wear ha ha ha

do Guys check the wear of your tyres??? or are you just going for comfort cause u now have soft tyres.....


If you are getting uneven wear, it could be more wheel alignment, than tyre pressure, my tyres had hardly worn at all, but yes i keep an eye on them, and rotate them every so often...
You didnt say if you had the stock tyres or aftermarket ones... so advising a tyre pressure for the beach, for you, is difficult... but remember, Jimnys are very light... i have LT AT's on my GV, and i lower to 12psi for sand...
I agree with all the advice so far... take recovery gear, compressor, dont drive fast, dont turn suddenly, nice smooth turns... not sure if anyone mentioned which ratio to use, 4H or 4L, i prefer 4L, and cruise along at 40kph, gives me low enough gearing, and forward momentum... it depends how soft the sand is, you may get away with 4H, just listen to the engine, if it sounds like its struggling, switch to 4L... lastly, just watch out for all the other silly bastards around you... :D

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Post Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 6:58 am 
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In my experience spray on stuff can stick sand and crap on.

Flush with plenty of fresh water after, garden sprinklers work well for spraying water up under the car.

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Post Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 7:35 am 
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Rusho wrote:
FWIT I never bother applying anything before hand. Just pay an extra bit of attention when cleaning it off. I use a bi-carb/water solution sprayed to the underside of the car, this neutralizes the salt (and is very cheap) let it sit for a couple of minute and hose off 8)



Am I the only one that noticed this? :crazy:

Salt water is high pH of about 8-9pH anyway dude, so "neutralising" it with bi-carb (which is alkaline as well) is not going to work. If anything you're better of washing it with a water and lemon juice solution. But that said just use professional stuff like "salt away" if you're that pedantic.



Chemistry 101 At its finest! 8)



As for having fun in a jimny on the beach! Go nuts, just like any other car (just smaller) :D.


Garden Sprinklers FTW when cleaning it... :twisted:

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