[Ruthless]

I just machined the front knuckles up with 3 degrees of camber for the fast Zook I'll put some photos up once they are in

[11_evl]

camber or caster??

[Ruthless]

Camber

[Ruthless]

I'll get a photo of them in the car later

[royce]

how are you going to do the bolts up?

[Ruthless]

im taking a little bit out of the arms that come out that the wheel bearings run on with the die grinder and then they will go straight in i was going to give it more then 3 degrees but then you will have a hard time getting the bolts in

[TZAR]

royce wrote:

how are you going to do the bolts up?

Tight you fuckin idiot


















waits for a banning.
But I agree with Royce cause now the bolts will be stressed on an angle. Maybe you could machine a small spacer that will go under the bolt head or just build up the surface on the stub and machine that falt so the bolts are in theire normal position.

I would noobcad up a pic but Its my day off so I am resting

[Ruthless]

ill see how it goes if i need to i will but ill see how it goes with out them first

[Junior_91]

Why are you doing this in the first place i must ask? I used to have a drift car and i only did it cause i was cornering at high speeds and could actually use it and not just have it for looks?

[atari4x4]

I've just recently had camber bolts fitted to my vitara after wheeling it for 6 years with +ve camber, the difference in handling before & after is amazing, even thought it was only a couple of degrees you'd be surprised.

[Ruthless]

Junior_91 wrote:

Why are you doing this in the first place i must ask? I used to have a drift car and i only did it cause i was cornering at high speeds and could actually use it and not just have it for looks?

It's not going in my black Zook it's going in the rally Zook with a 4ag in it for better cornering at high speeds

[JrZook]

Ruthless wrote:

Junior_91 wrote:

Why are you doing this in the first place i must ask? I used to have a drift car and i only did it cause i was cornering at high speeds and could actually use it and not just have it for looks?

It's not going in my black Zook it's going in the rally Zook with a 4ag in it for better cornering at high speeds

Increasing the castor has probably a better effect for what you are doing. Castor tilts the axis in which the wheel is rotated around, thus the wheel gains camber as it's turned.

Added bonus here is that in straight line position the wheel has not gained extra camber and thus will still have its full contact patch on the surface.

[joeblow]

Ruthless wrote:

it's going in the rally Zook with a 4ag in it for better cornering at high speeds

We all know how thats gonna end.........post pics of the result.

[alien]

joeblow wrote:

Ruthless wrote:

it's going in the rally Zook with a 4ag in it for better cornering at high speeds

We all know how thats gonna end.........post pics of the result.

if you're still alive to post them that is =) lol

[steak_knife]

joeblow wrote:

Ruthless wrote:

it's going in the rally Zook with a 4ag in it for better cornering at high speeds

We all know how thats gonna end.........post pics of the result.

I raced a 4age powered zook, what's your point?????

[Ruthless]

I'll put all the pics up I just jad a quick look at it after I got back from south Burnett and Im just going to make some washer with the 3 degree angle on one side
And we've been racing the car for years and we just want better conering because in the gravel you have next to no steering

[JrZook]

Ruthless wrote:

I'll put all the pics up I just jad a quick look at it after I got back from south Burnett and Im just going to make some washer with the 3 degree angle on one side
And we've been racing the car for years and we just want better conering because in the gravel you have next to no steering

Try some more castor mate! It will load the outside wheel more on turns and give it the camber your after.

[ajsr]

personally I think a little camber would be great, and as jr zook said ckeck your castor as well.
but Imo it would be easier and a better option to get camber from a custom offset king pin. not sure how you would go with the rear wiper assy though

[85zooki]

can you get off set king pin bearings for zooks? I know you can for patrols because after I did some big jumps in my v8 patrol ute the diff got a little bent.

[Gwagensteve]

Good luck with this, but I think you are barking up the wrong tree.

The need for negative camber is mostly a requirement to maintain contact patch during hard cornering with an IFS design. As an IFS car body rolls, the wheel "heels over" going into heavy positive camber.

That's not the case with a live axle.

Another consideration is what you are doing to the location of the inner axle. If I've figured it right, you are lowering the CV in the knuckle, which will force the inner axle down, taking out inner axle seals and loading the side gears in the diff. You are also pushing the CV inwards a little bit, which might also be an issue. This isn't a problem with offset kingpin bushes.

Personally, as has been stated, I would have left camber alone and smashed heaps of caster into the front end.

Steve.

[Ruthless]

[McBane]

Its gonna be interesting to see the results, as its a live axle the gometry dosnt change as the body leans over. i think more castor is more likley to have the result you want.

[royce]

I love lots of camber and like ive said many times before too much castor causes more troubles than good

camber also helps to get the the bulk of the tyres contact patch on the ground as the sidewall flexes, rolling suspension or not

[Ruthless]

update cause ive been busy with putting a 4age into my daily driver sierra i havent had the chance to put the camber modified knuckles on to the other car but its still all there ready to go on when i get a chance to put them on i will and ill post the photos up once its done and let you know how they go

[Ruthless]

just found a better option to my dodgy machined piece ordering some of these tonight
http://www.andysautosport.com/suzuki/19 ... _kits/spc/

[SierraDan]

SPC Performance wrote:

What do camber kits do? Why buy camber kits?
Any amount of ride height change will cause the camber of your tires to change.

Says this under the product listing in FAQ's... Solid axle..

Must be a generic FAQ haha.

[monley]

Just bend your front diff

[GRPABT1]

You say that in jest but I know some commodore racers that put their rear salsbury diffs in a press and bend them for camber. Can only be done on some diffs without killing the axles though I believe.

[ajsr]

how would you do that and have the axle run though a cocked bearing and seal??? cant see that working

[JrZook]

ajsr wrote:

how would you do that and have the axle run though a cocked bearing and seal??? cant see that working

Flex shafts!!!!