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aussiexxxmoto
Joined: Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 39 Location: Caboolture, qld
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Scrawny

I live here!
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
Vehicle: Popemobile
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 Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 7:01 pm |
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Waste of time and $$$!!!
But get one anyway and try it. I'm always keen to hear pros and cons, and have someone else waste their money 
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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 Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 7:11 pm |
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if a piece of pressed tin could give 30% increase in power and economy
it would already be on your car.
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atari4x4

az supporter
Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:06 pm |
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does anyone want to buy some snake oil?
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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 Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:46 pm |
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atari4x4 wrote: does anyone want to buy some snake oil?
will you take a bridge as part payment.
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scottysj80
Joined: Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 677 Location: south west rocks, mi
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yer i dont think thay work, but it dose say you get a 100% refund if you are not happy with it ,so i say give it a go and let us no how it goes and if your not happy send it back lol
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atari4x4

az supporter
Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 9:29 pm |
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shep wrote: atari4x4 wrote: does anyone want to buy some snake oil? will you take a bridge as part payment.
sure thing, can you delivery the bridge?
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lump_a_charcoal

az supporter
Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
Vehicle: MY2019 Jimny
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 Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:52 pm |
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atari4x4 wrote: shep wrote: atari4x4 wrote: does anyone want to buy some snake oil? will you take a bridge as part payment. sure thing, can you delivery the bridge?
Hey!
I had dibs on that bridge... I was just waiting for my Nigerian mate to send through the money...
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joeblow
Joined: Sat May 10, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 3273 Location: melbourne
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hahahahaha.......best fuel saver on a 4x4......diff gears....
_________________ builder of custom road legal zooks......and stuff.
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Lokidog

az supporter
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1441 Location: Around the corner
Vehicle: 1995 Sierra 1.3
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I was given a very close facsimile (if not the same product) of one of these from a client to try out.
I've had it on the zook for about 4 weeks and so far the fuel economy hasn't improved, in fact it's probably gotten a little worse.
However the manufacturer he imports them from states that these particular ones are for fuel injected vehicles only.
My client imports them and also uses them on his own vehicle, a 2008 Nissan Patrol (turbo diesel). He is quite confident that they do work, as he has noticed positive results from his own vehicle, his wife's and also a friend's vehicle he's installed them on.
So I wouldn't recommend installing one on a 1.3 (carburetor) sierra.
There is another one from HiClone that is specially designed for the carburetor fueled cars…
I personally wouldn't pay money for one… But if Mr HiClone wants to give me a free one to test out. I'll be happy to do so, as long as he pay's for the extra fuel that I use 
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TheRAWPrAwN79
Joined: Fri Jan 02, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 52 Location: Sydney
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yep, during the petrol price gouge I had $15 for this experiment to throw in my 1.3 carby and saw nooo noticeable difference. Interesting concept but no practical value for me. Cheap lesson, mind you, its still in there 
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Lokidog

az supporter
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1441 Location: Around the corner
Vehicle: 1995 Sierra 1.3
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 Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 1:18 am |
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I forgot to mention the increased power that these things are supposed to give. Not really noticable to a great degree. But I feel that when driving up hills or into a headwind the zook holds speed slighty better.
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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Lokidog wrote: I was given a very close facsimile (if not the same product) of one of these from a client to try out. I've had it on the zook for about 4 weeks and so far the fuel economy hasn't improved, in fact it's probably gotten a little worse. However the manufacturer he imports them from states that these particular ones are for fuel injected vehicles only. My client imports them and also uses them on his own vehicle, a 2008 Nissan Patrol (turbo diesel). He is quite confident that they do work, as he has noticed positive results from his own vehicle, his wife's and also a friend's vehicle he's installed them on. So I wouldn't recommend installing one on a 1.3 (carburetor) sierra. There is another one from HiClone that is specially designed for the carburetor fueled cars… I personally wouldn't pay money for one… But if Mr HiClone wants to give me a free one to test out. I'll be happy to do so, as long as he pay's for the extra fuel that I use 
on a $50k 4wd using a motor that is in a lot of other vehiceles i am certan
that the manufacture would already have a it on the car from the factory.
peugeot spent billions developing the 3ltr diesel motor if a piece of pressed tin gave even a 1% increase in power it would already be on it.
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royce

omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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Hiclone did nothing for my sierra but very same one made a noticeable difference to the economy on Bruces GV 
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Rockhopper
Joined: Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1265 Location: Chipping Norton
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During the recent price gouge, I just sold my 4.2 litre GQ Patrol and bought a Sierra. Did wonders for my fuel economy 
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Bruce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4003 Location: Brisbane
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royce wrote: Hiclone did nothing for my sierra but very same one made a noticeable difference to the economy on Bruces GV 
Yes strangely enough it did make a diff to fuel. (Don't bag me out) but from memory I was getting about 10.5 per 100 b4 I fitted it (from Royce) and after a tank or 3 I was getting ave about 9.2lt per hundred.
PS Royce, I still have in in OUR shed 
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royce

omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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you stupid old fat bast.......oh hang on you said DONT bag you out
sorry carry on then 
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Lokidog

az supporter
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1441 Location: Around the corner
Vehicle: 1995 Sierra 1.3
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shep wrote: Lokidog wrote: I was given a very close facsimile (if not the same product) of one of these from a client to try out. I've had it on the zook for about 4 weeks and so far the fuel economy hasn't improved, in fact it's probably gotten a little worse. However the manufacturer he imports them from states that these particular ones are for fuel injected vehicles only. My client imports them and also uses them on his own vehicle, a 2008 Nissan Patrol (turbo diesel). He is quite confident that they do work, as he has noticed positive results from his own vehicle, his wife's and also a friend's vehicle he's installed them on. So I wouldn't recommend installing one on a 1.3 (carburetor) sierra. There is another one from HiClone that is specially designed for the carburetor fueled cars… I personally wouldn't pay money for one… But if Mr HiClone wants to give me a free one to test out. I'll be happy to do so, as long as he pay's for the extra fuel that I use  on a $50k 4wd using a motor that is in a lot of other vehiceles i am certan that the manufacture would already have a it on the car from the factory. peugeot spent billions developing the 3ltr diesel motor if a piece of pressed tin gave even a 1% increase in power it would already be on it.
Good point, and a point that has be brought up many times before,
But…
Neither are extractors, cold air intakes, performance chips etc, already on factory built vehicles.
I'm not defending anyone who claims that these hiclones work, nor am I going to dispute that they don't. Personal experience from trialing the free one I was given, says that they don't work on a carburetted Sierra. Obviously some people have these installed on their vehicles and they are happy with the results. I believe the manufacturers claims of 15-20% fuel economy improvement and power increase is a bit optimistic. After all a good service with a new set of plugs and leads will make a difference to an engines performance.
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TZAR

az supporter
Joined: Tue Aug 01, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 3459 Location: licking some windows
Vehicle: LJ20 LJ50
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shep wrote: Lokidog wrote: peugeot spent billions developing the 3ltr diesel motor if a piece of pressed tin gave even a 1% increase in power it would already be on it. Good point, and a point that has be brought up many times before, But… Neither are extractors, cold air intakes, performance chips etc, already on factory built vehicles. .
Extractors are dearer to produce than a cast manifold, and make it harder for the vehicle to be exported to some countries. cast is simple and universal.
Cold air intakes..... what is a bonnet scoop? They need to have it under the bonnet to stop noise. Not everyone loves the sound of air being pushed into an engine.
Performance chips... if it was factory fitted why would it be a performance chip? Also strict emmission standards
etc.... they are more and there are many many more reasons why they don't put them on
As for the hiclone, blowzone, thingies the air intakes are designed by engineers to get maxixum air flow in, so the advantage of non swerling air is lost by the restriction the hiclone gives. Its like strangling your engine
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twitchy
Joined: Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1086 Location: Lightning Ridge
Vehicle: 1999 Jimny
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TheRAWPrAwN79
Joined: Fri Jan 02, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 52 Location: Sydney
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this thread would be incomplete without the word vortex. So VORTEX 
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alex

az supporter
Joined: Sat Aug 16, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2151 Location: Brissy
Vehicle: Nissan
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ball

I live here!
Joined: Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4673 Location: Katherine
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TZAR wrote: As for the hiclone, blowzone, thingies the air intakes are designed by engineers to get maxixum air flow in, so the advantage of non swerling air is lost by the restriction the hiclone gives. Its like strangling your engine
Not just maximum air flow, what the air does (swirl and tumble)through the inlet tract is important as well. There are advantages to having swirl induced.
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Scrawny

I live here!
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
Vehicle: Popemobile
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 Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 3:16 pm |
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shep wrote: peugeot spent billions developing the 3ltr diesel motor
If you are talking about the Patrol 3L turbo diesel it's made by Nissan, the Navara 3L diesel on the other hand is made by Renault.
And yes, extractors do come out on factory cars. Toyota Celica is just one example.
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Lokidog

az supporter
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1441 Location: Around the corner
Vehicle: 1995 Sierra 1.3
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Well the results are in…
The free hiclone/vortex gizmo my client gave me to try out has proved to be more economical after its removed.
With "fuel saver" installed 10.43L/100km
With "fuel saver" removed 9.75L/100km
Note: the "fuel saver" I was given was made for fuel injected motors, it was to be positioned in the intake as close to the throttle body as possible. The manufacture also states that it is not designed to be used with a carbureted engine and was only design to be used on a fuel injected motor.
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Hybrid

az supporter
Joined: Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1095 Location: Bulimba, Brisbane
Vehicle: '92 Sierra
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Rockhopper wrote: During the recent price gouge, I just sold my 4.2 litre GQ Patrol and bought a Sierra. Did wonders for my fuel economy 
During the recent price gouge I bought a 350z. 5 times the power of my zuk and a bit over 2 liters/100km more economical on fuel LOL
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kevinMario
Joined: Sun Jan 18, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 55 Location: Perth
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Scrawny

I live here!
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
Vehicle: Popemobile
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kevinMario wrote: This particular product on the koleco auto almost choked me to death... if only I'm not @ the office I would ROFL over this : Passenger Noise Reducerhttp://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main_pa ... ucts_id=40interesting, no ? 
Top notch!!! I'm sending away for mine now!!!
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kevinMario
Joined: Sun Jan 18, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 55 Location: Perth
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@ScrawnC
Would love to see it in action mate, who usually sits on your passenger seat ? xD
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Scrawny

I live here!
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
Vehicle: Popemobile
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 Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 3:25 pm |
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Wife in passenger seat, 2 little girls in back seat.
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