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mcwilly
Joined: Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 867 Location: nsw, newcastle
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i got defected today and just wondering if body lift is legal in nsw? they also go me for side intrusion bar height being altered due to lift??? as far as i knew they dont even have them lol. going to see engineer but would be good to know first
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hooki

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Joined: Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1785 Location: perth, WA
Vehicle: 85' LWB Sierra, 01' S15
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dunno about body lift in nsw, but the side intrusion bar height thing is bs, leaf sprung sierra's dont even have them from what i remember.
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Rockhopper
Joined: Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1265 Location: Chipping Norton
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I could be wrong, but I'm reasonably sure bodylifts up to 2 inches are allowed. As for side intrusion bars, Sierra's don't have any. Looks like you pissed off the wrong coppa at the wrong time. So what did you do to draw attention to yourself?? 
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mcwilly
Joined: Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 867 Location: nsw, newcastle
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Yea I didn't think they had any. I think they were having a blitz it was a rbt style setup with defects they pulled anything modified. I was just cruising on speed limit. Thanks for your help
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felix
Joined: Thu May 29, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 186 Location: Sydney
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Sounds like you got done by a pissed off clueless copper. Similar to the one trying to tell me that a missing intake pipe is a performance engine modification.
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joeblow
Joined: Sat May 10, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 3273 Location: melbourne
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yes, no intrusion bars. the copper may not have been pissed off, it all depends if the vehicle is 'presentable'. if its missing mudflaps, barwork for example they are going to pay more attention to the vehicle. what is the body lift made from?
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brendan
Joined: Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1484 Location: Sydney
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whats a side intrusion bar?
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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whats the exact ADR for side intrusion? ther is no way a sierra would be allowed to be exempt from it, I have always had a thought that perhaps the sill falls into teh correct zone for side intrusion, and there is no doubt that lifting it does affect it, remember its not up to the cop to know whether its right or not but now its up to you to prove him wrong, find out where the range is and get the tape out 
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mcwilly
Joined: Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 867 Location: nsw, newcastle
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Body lift is steel blocks. Yea it just sucks there are cars that should be off the road and they pick on a poor sierra. Can't go anywhere in Newcastle with out police stopping you. That's in any car modded or not
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Scrawny

I live here!
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
Vehicle: Popemobile
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Move to Brissie then 
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royce

omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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mcwilly wrote: Body lift is steel blocks. Yea it just sucks there are cars that should be off the road and they pick on a poor sierra. Can't go anywhere in Newcastle with out police stopping you. That's in any car modded or not
why dont yuou just go get it approved then you can tell the cops to go jump.
afterall they are just as worried your bodylift is made from paper mache and your body is going to eject itself across a pedestrian crossing and squash a little old lady who is also a war veteran and aboriginal and gay and muslim.
then they could of jsut told you to carry on and pick up the next shitter to come through
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Trojan
Joined: Mon May 26, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 390
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What some don't understand is that an engineer certificate doesn't exempt you from defects. My Suzuki has been defected for things which are clearly written on the engineers report. It's not the Polices responsibilioty to proove the vehicle is unroadworthy, it's the owners responsibility to proove that it is roadworthy. So if they think something isn't right, they'll just note it down on a defect. Afterall, they aren't engineers and how are they to know as to whether it's been changed since it was engineered.
So on that, go take the thing to an Engineer, Athol Mullins is fairly good and fair to deal with. If your bodylift is steel with appropriate graded bolts, you shouldn't have to many dramas.
royce wrote: whats the exact ADR for side intrusion?
ADR 29. There were exemptions on catergories of certain vehicles up until about 1996/97 for this ADR, assuming that the Sierra is under those catergories, it kind of ties in with the fitment of intrusion bars into SJ80's
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Zook_Fan

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Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4530 Location: Toowoomba
Vehicle: Maruti and LJ80's
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if you do get defected and you protest the claims you still lose the points dont you?
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Trojan
Joined: Mon May 26, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 390
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Zook_Fan wrote: if you do get defected and you protest the claims you still lose the points dont you?
We don't lose points for all defects in NSW.
It's 3 points for brake, steering, seating and seat belt defects. 3 points for bullbar protrusions and the same for causing excessive noise and smoke. All other defects don't carry any demerits, but if you drive a vehicle in breach of a defect notice, they'll get you for that to (1 for minor defect, 3 for major defect)
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appsie
Joined: Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2225
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sucks that you got a defect mate but it happens i guess.Could of been tyres and lift too i guess.
I was pretty sure that you could have 2" b/lift legally without report and as for the intrusion bars see how you go but im pretty sure if you take it to get cleared they will know the rules check off the couple MINOR things and your good to go again.
My zuk is engineered for suspension,bodylift,wheels etc but i still worry about getting a defect,My EXO is gonna be my downfall and am considering removing it to help.
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wardy
Joined: Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 88 Location: Newcastle
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were abouts in newy was this? i havnt had any troubles with the police iv been pulled over twice i didnt even have p plates on and i was driving round with no head lights on lol i have a 2inch body lift 3 inch suspension 31s that hang out of the wells and no front or rear bars on. both times they just said get some p's on and have a nice night .... not even a breath test lol =D
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mcwilly
Joined: Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 867 Location: nsw, newcastle
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Near king street macas. Spoke to an engineer and he believes my car is fine to pass now but can't do a report till next week. Just needed mud flaps.so gonna take it in see if they will clear it for me
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magnat

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Joined: Sat Jul 28, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 1066 Location: Southern Highlands N
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The Golden rule is
If it ain't factory... Its a Mod...
If you do get an Inspection officer on the wrong side of bed they can issue you a defect from
" Incorrect Speaker location"
"Magic Tree hanging off rear Vision Mirror"
I have heard of people being defected for even the slightest mod that you and I don't even considered a Mod.. Like removing the Induction noise Bottles off the Air intake...
(Those Bottle shaped things that are designed to reduce intake noise)
On my last Ride I had a 2 12 inch Sub enclosure in the boot and it was anchored down and I was informed that if I had not secured it to the vehicle it was classified as dangerous cargo and an insecure load and was defectable...
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Trojan
Joined: Mon May 26, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 390
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appsie wrote: I was pretty sure that you could have 2" b/lift legally without report
It never has been the case in NSW, always needed an engineers report for it. I think the idea that you didn't has evolved from some of the great internet wisdom out there.
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Scrawny

I live here!
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
Vehicle: Popemobile
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Trojan wrote: I think the idea that you didn't has evolved from some of the great internet wisdom out there.
Ahhh, the great 'he said - she said' wisdom we all love to spread so much
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appsie
Joined: Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2225
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well there you go, i have always just listened to my uncle from when he was working at ARB and always talking to the engineer who travelled thru.
My zuk is done but my hilux isnt engineered for it,thanks for the info anyway but as said there is that much information floating around and 50 stories what do you believe.
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